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<Mdm_Maestro> Don't laugh, Haruka, you might need one of those soon if you don't clean your room... it's like the insides of an elephant's rectum exploded in there... after it had eaten a bowl of Billy Bob's "super stinky Texas Chili".


welcome to #suburbansenshi2

[20:00] *** Judge Ryan has joined #suburbansenshi2
[20:00] <@spiritflame> irasshai Judge Ryan
[20:00] * Arx Sylvanran waits for Judge Miara
[20:01] * Judge Ryan is dressed like a Judge. Not, not that sort of judge. But a JUDGE.
[20:01] * LOVELYgirl is here
[20:01] * Klavier opens up his laptop and starts fiddling with a few things
[20:01] <Judge Ryan>





[20:01] <Arx Sylvanran> ...A colorful appearance.
[20:01] <Arx Sylvanran> I hereby call the first ever expedited Trial of the Hotel to order
[20:01] <Judge Ryan> ...I am the LAWL.
[20:02] * Raihosha stands and acknowledges the court before sitting again.
[20:02] * Klavier stands at attention
[20:02] * Judge Ryan sits down
[20:02] <Klavier> The prosecution is ready, Your Honors.
[20:02] <Arx Sylvanran> this is a preliminary hearing to determine the personhood of one Anthony Suthers as a precursor to possible legal action against one "YingGirl"
[20:03] <Raihosha> The defense is as ready as we can be, your honor.
[20:03] <Arx Sylvanran> the rules are as stated here.
[20:03] <Arx Sylvanran> The defense and prosecution having stated they are ready, we may proceed. The Prosecution may make their Opening Statement.
[20:04] <Klavier> Your Honors, we are here today to establish the personhood of an artificial intelligence.
[20:05] <Klavier> But what makes a person a person? A human being a human being?
[20:05] <Klavier> And on the flip side of the coin, what makes an intelligence artificial or natural?
[20:07] <Klavier> There are...certain qualities that a human being has, that a computer program may or may not possess.
[20:08] <Klavier> The senses, for example. We humans have five: hearing, sight, smell, touch, taste.
[20:08] <Klavier> Now, let's say we take a hypothetical artificial intelligence program...
[20:08] * Klavier pulls out his iPhone 4S
[20:08] <Klavier> We all know Fraulein Siri, ja?
[20:08] <Klavier> She is able to listen to us.
[20:09] <Klavier> She can give us restaurant recommendations based on our location, but can she base them on how well the food tastes? The atmosphere inside?
[20:10] <Anthony Suthers> ...
[20:10] <Klavier> As for sight...a computer's senses can be very acute, more so than a human, but does that eye for detail also possess an eye for...beauty?
[20:12] <Klavier> Can a computer program feel...their own soul stirring?
[20:13] * Klavier strikes a guitar riff
[20:13] <Klavier> My purpose here today is to establish that Herr Suthers' computer programs are not to be considered as human beings, Your Honors.
[20:13] <Klavier> I am finished.
[20:14] * Arx Sylvanran nods.
[20:14] <Arx Sylvanran> The defense may make its opening statement
[20:15] <Raihosha> I thank the Court for letting me speak on Mr. Suthers's behalf.
[20:17] <Raihosha> I have a firm belief in the personhood of any being with a sapient intelligence, and I do not feel that an artificial origin, no matter how tenuous it may be, should eliminate the right for an intelligent being to have equality before the law.
[20:17] <Raihosha> The real question that the court has before it is on the one hand general and on the other specific.
[20:19] <Raihosha> In general can any artificial intelligence have moral agency, can any artificial intelligence have a sense of right and wrong.
[20:19] <Raihosha> In general can any artificial intelligence understand the law and act in accordance with its responsibilities thereunto.
[20:21] * Anthony Suthers looks a little suprised.
[20:22] <Raihosha> And in specific does Anthony have Moral Agency sufficient stand in full equality before the court, or do we relegate him to the status of a child, or a person of diminished capacity, or is he equivelent to a slave? Does he stand below that as a dangerous animal? Or will the court cause him the ultimate humiliation and relegate him to a piece of malfunctioning equipment.
[20:23] <Raihosha> I submit to this court that not only does Mr. Suthers have full Moral Agency, but if we fail to recognize it we suffer the possibility of diminishing ourselves.
[20:24] <Raihosha> For in the past humans have said: "This group is unable to have agency." "These people are too immature to express agency."
[20:25] <Raihosha> And history has always found, in the end, that a horrible mistake has been made and that grevious crimes were committed against those who were denied their agency.
[20:26] <Raihosha> And that is what faces the court. Thank you for letting me complete my statement.
[20:26] <Arx Sylvanran> Very good; the Prosecution may call its first witness.
[20:27] <Klavier> Very well, I shall call Herr Suthers to the stand.
[20:28] * Anthony Suthers obediently stands, and walks to the stand without hesitation.
[20:29] <Raihosha> It is somewhat unusual to call the defendant as a prosecution witness?
[20:29] <Klavier> Herr Suthers...you are the creator of this artificial intelligence program, ja?
[20:29] <Arx Sylvanran> It is irreguklar, but since this case directly deals with his personhood, I will allow it.
[20:29] <Anthony Suthers> I'm afraid I do not fully understand the question.
[20:30] <Klavier> Mr. Suthers, you are the creator of this artificial intelligence program, yes?
[20:30] <Klavier> Sorry. German heritage and all.
[20:31] <Anthony Suthers> ..."This Artificial Intelligence Program?"
[20:31] * Klavier clears his throat
[20:31] <Klavier> Tell me about yourself, then.
[20:32] <Klavier> Specifically...
[20:32] <Klavier> Do you have an awareness of music and art?
[20:33] <Anthony Suthers> And awareness?
[20:33] * Klavier goes over and gets his guitar
[20:34] <Klavier> Let me demonstrate. Do you recognize this piece of music?
[20:34] * Klavier starts to play this music
[20:36] <Anthony Suthers> I do not recognize it off-hand. I would quickly point out that a great number of people would not recognize it.
[20:36] <Klavier> So you have not heard this music before?
[20:36] <Anthony Suthers> But I will not deny it. I do not recognize it.
[20:36] * Klavier nods.
[20:36] <Klavier> Does this music...evoke a feeling in you when you hear it?
[20:37] <Klavier> Can you put that feeling into words?
[20:37] <Anthony Suthers> I would need to hear it again.
[20:38] * Klavier starts playing again, this time at a faster tempo
[20:38] <Klavier> Now...
[20:38] <Klavier> I have a question to ask of everyone here.
[20:38] * Anthony Suthers listens.
[20:38] <Klavier> Some people may recognize this music, and it will evoke...a memory for them.
[20:39] <Klavier> Sometimes, it will be a pleasant one...sometimes, a sad one.
[20:39] <Klavier> It is a part of all of us being human.
[20:39] <Anthony Suthers> Unless they were deaf?
[20:39] * Klavier recoils!
[20:40] <Klavier> Well...
[20:40] <Klavier> this is where my other test comes in, ja?
[20:40] * Anthony Suthers nods.
[20:40] <Klavier> There are certain behaviors that you have learned.
[20:41] <Klavier> Human beings have their own ways of learning, and one of them is known in psychology as conditioning.
[20:41] <Klavier> Are you aware of this, Herr Suthers
[20:41] <Anthony Suthers> I am keenly aware of this.
[20:42] * Anthony Suthers nods.
[20:43] <Klavier> I'm going to give you an example of conditioning, and I want you to tell me if you have experienced this.
[20:44] * Klavier plays this sound
[20:45] <Klavier> I looked up the studies of Herr Pavlov...he was the one who originated the theory of the conditioned stimulus.
[20:45] <Klavier> For some people who are listening to this right now...
[20:45] * Klavier smacks the wall behind him
[20:45] <Klavier> At this moment, they smell freshly cut grass!
[20:46] <Anthony Suthers> I do not sense that. I have rarely seen engines used to cut grass. They were used for other things.
[20:47] <Klavier> This is where the human brain differs from an artificial intelligence.
[20:47] <Klavier> There are many unusual examples.
[20:48] <Klavier> This is the unconditioned response, Herr Suthers.
[20:48] <Klavier> One example...a man has a hot girlfriend who loves garlic. They make out. He breaks up...
[20:48] * Klavier points
[20:49] <Klavier> But the scent of garlic will set fire to his loins for some time after!
[20:49] <Suu> ...
[20:49] <Suu> is this why you broke up with him, Hiromi?
[20:50] <Suu> ^
[20:50] <Klavier> Herr Suthers, do you possess any unusual stimulus/response connections?
[20:50] <Anthony Suthers> Unusual?
[20:50] <Anthony Suthers> I would state that I do.
[20:52] <Klavier> Please elaborate.
[20:53] <Anthony Suthers> If I am suddenly confronted with a sharp object, my pulse will slow, and if bodily harm seems imenent, it will stop.
[20:54] <Klavier> Now, is this behavior something you were programmed with?
[20:54] <Anthony Suthers> While a human body's muscles are more efficient with increased circulation, mine are not affected, and due to the high pressure of my blood, my heart will stop beating so it does not go everywhere, or frighten anyone. One could claim that they are BOTH programmed responses.
[20:55] <Anthony Suthers> Both are valid approaches to the upcoming possibility of injury.
[20:56] <Klavier> This is not something a normal human being could do, however.
[20:56] <Anthony Suthers> Do you require further elaboration? I will cooperate if so.
[20:56] <Klavier> I do not.
[20:56] <Klavier> For a human being...
[20:57] <Klavier> In many cases, when they are confronted by a sharp object...
[20:57] <Klavier> Their instinct to flee and save themselves kicks in.
[20:57] <Klavier> Unless you're Crocodile Dundee.
[20:58] <Klavier> But your reaction is not one that a normal human body is capable of performing.
[20:59] <Raihosha> I would be glad to explain the physiological mechanisms of the adrenaline reaction to Mr. Klavier if he wishes?
[20:59] <Klavier> Well, yes, please explain.
[21:00] <Raihosha> In a human... allowing for the fact that TIme Lords, Klingons and others have different actions...
[21:01] <Raihosha> When danger is sensed the brain sends a signal to dump adrenaline into the blood supply, preparing the body to either fight or flee.
[21:02] <Raihosha> The reaction of different systems in the body react differently to the increased adrenaline levels.
[21:03] <Raihosha> Muscles tense, blood flow to the stomach decreases, one might experience a bowel movement to drop weight and possibly make yourself an upatizing meal...
[21:03] <Raihosha> ^unapatizing
[21:04] <Suu> Eww...
[21:04] <Raihosha> I... well you don't need the whole biomedical lecture.
[21:05] <Arx Sylvanran> If I might ask, how does this relate back to the Defendant's particular situation?
[21:06] <Klavier> His actions upon being confronted by a sharp object are not the ones that would be experienced by a normal human being.
[21:06] <Raihosha> The fact that Mr. Suthers doesn't have the SAME reaction to stressors doesn't mean that he doesn't have an involuntary response to said stressors.
[21:07] <Klavier> That begs the question: Are these stress reactions an unconditional response to a conditional stimulus?
[21:07] <Raihosha> In the same way that the human response is involuntary.
[21:08] <Anthony Suthers> If the danger is unexpected, it is happens.
[21:08] <Klavier> But let's say...
[21:09] <Eitak_Razal> Ugh Tony picked the perfect person for this...
[21:09] <Klavier> Let's take a different tack, ja?
[21:09] <Raihosha> Perhaps I could cross examine?
[21:10] <Raihosha> And we can pick back up on re-direct?
[21:10] <Klavier> Then very well, the floor is yours, Herr Raihosha.
[21:10] <Arx Sylvanran> Redirect only applies to issues brough up in the first cross
[21:10] <Arx Sylvanran> If you want to introduce issues do it now.
[21:10] <Arx Sylvanran> Then cross.
[21:11] <Arx Sylvanran> I appreicate your desire to cross, Riahosha, but we must let Herr Klavier finish his intiial round of questioning.
[21:11] <Arx Sylvanran> Take notes and hang on. That being said, Herr Klavier... directness is preferred.
[21:12] <Raihosha> Right... dangit... the last time I was involved in a trial I was doing a drumhead court for drunk on duty...
[21:12] <Arx Sylvanran> Raise as many points as you care to examine now, Herr Klavier, because all we will be doing is focusing on whatever you dig up.
[21:13] <Klavier> Right, then
[21:13] <Klavier> Herr Suthers...are you able to form opinions?
[21:16] <Anthony Suthers> I believe that I can, yes.
[21:18] <Klavier> You...believe you can?
[21:19] <Anthony Suthers> Yes.
[21:19] <Klavier> Then I want your opinion on a hypothetical matter.
[21:20] <Klavier> There is a tiny town in the middle of the mountains. In this town there lives an old man with his daughter, and both are very poor.
[21:20] * Anthony Suthers nods.
[21:20] <Klavier> The daughter gets very sick and needs a specific medicine from the town doctor.
[21:21] <Klavier> The town doctor is a greedy man, who will only sell the medicine at a very, very high price, that the old man cannot afford.
[21:21] <Klavier> The old man decides that he must steal this medicine for his daughter to live.
[21:22] <Klavier> He does so.
[21:22] <Klavier> His daughter recovers and the greedy town doctor discovers the old man had stolen the medicine.
[21:22] <Klavier> So he gets the town police elders to press charges against the old man.
[21:22] <Klavier> Now...taking all this into consideration...
[21:22] * Klavier pounds the wall and then points at Anthony Suthers.
[21:23] <Klavier> Do you believe that the old man's behavior is justifiable?
[21:23] * Arx Sylvanran leans forward
[21:24] * Judge Ryan raises an eyebrow beneath his helmet
[21:25] <Anthony Suthers> No.
[21:25] <Anthony Suthers> But neither is the town doctor's.
[21:26] <Klavier> Could you explain your reasoning?
[21:26] <Anthony Suthers> While the old man broke the law, and there is no denying it, the Doctor is also guilty, for he put his own wealth above the well-being of the town.
[21:27] <Anthony Suthers> Both deserve punishment.
[21:27] <Anthony Suthers> However, you utilize the word "Justifiable."
[21:28] <Anthony Suthers> I take that to mean that you ask, given the circumstances in which the Doctor Stole the Medicine, he should be given leniency for his crime. The answer in my opinion is no.
[21:28] <Klavier> Consider this, Herr Suthers.
[21:28] <Klavier> If the old man's daughter did not get her medicine, she very likely would have died.
[21:29] <Anthony Suthers> Very well, consider this.
[21:29] <Klavier> The old man could very well have been judged as negligent if he did not properly care for her!
[21:29] <Eitak_Razal> He's not winning very many points with the judges.
[21:29] <Anthony Suthers> Who among the town might have been even sicker than the daughter who might have better been treated with that medicine? That old man utterly disregarded the life of that other hypothetical sick person as soon as he disregarded the law.
[21:30] <Anthony Suthers> The Law was in place to protect everyone who might have needed that medicine, not simply assure the prosperity of that doctor.
[21:31] <Eitak_Razal> And he keeps digging the whole deeper. I don't know if I should facepalm or dance for joy..
[21:31] * Anthony Suthers thinks for a while, and is silent.
[21:33] <Klavier> So you would have no qualms about punishing this old man who wanted to do nothing but save his daughter.
[21:33] <Anthony Suthers> This is my opinion, as that question has never been asked of me before. I perhaps could come to a new conclusion if I had more information.
[21:33] <Anthony Suthers> No. I would have not qualms.
[21:33] <Anthony Suthers> I would have no qualms about punishing the doctor either, however.
[21:36] <Anthony Suthers> Do you wish to ask me more?
[21:36] <Klavier> So if this old man was being tried by a jury of his peers.
[21:36] <Klavier> And if you, hypothetically, were sitting on that jury...
[21:36] <Klavier> Your opinion would already be formed
[21:37] <Anthony Suthers> I... what? No, I made my opinion right then. None have come to me with that hypothetical situation.
[21:38] <Eitak_Razal> .....
[21:38] * Eitak_Razal faceplams
[21:38] <Anthony Suthers> I don't understand your question.
[21:38] <Klavier> Let's say...
[21:38] <Klavier> You were chosen to sit on a jury with your peers of the old man who was on trial for stealing the medicine.
[21:39] <Anthony Suthers> With my peers?
[21:39] <Anthony Suthers> Very well, continue, counselor.
[21:39] <Klavier> Would you choose to prosecute this old man to the fullest extent of the law?
[21:39] <Anthony Suthers> Yes.
[21:40] <Anthony Suthers> I'm confused. You said verbatim that he stole the medicine. Then you ask if he is guilty of theft. If you were telling the truth prior, then he clearly is guilty.
[21:41] <Arx Sylvanran> A jury may still choose to rule in the face of the facts.
[21:41] <Arx Sylvanran> ^decide
[21:41] <Arx Sylvanran> I believe this is the context the counselor is trying to make.
[21:41] <Klavier> For example...they may choose to impose a lesser sentence.
[21:42] <Raihosha> However, Mr. Suthers has been given no other facts surrounding this hypothetical case?
[21:42] <Klavier> But let's say...the legal system in this certain place...is barbaric.
[21:42] <Klavier> A thief...has their hand cut off once convicted.
[21:42] <Klavier> But they may be let off with a lesser punishment.
[21:42] <Klavier> Would you want this man's hand to be cut off?
[21:43] <Anthony Suthers> Is he guilty... or not?
[21:43] <Anthony Suthers> If the justice system has been forced to become harsh, it has become so to discourage such behavior.
[21:43] * Anthony Suthers sits up suddenly.
[21:44] <Anthony Suthers> The question is not whether one might sympathize with the old man.
[21:44] <Anthony Suthers> It is not to the jury to question the legal system, from my undeerstanding, it falls upon the judge to impose a sentence.
[21:44] <Anthony Suthers> I would point out that this man, if he KNEW he faced that punishment, and stole the medicine for his daughter might be commended by many.
[21:44] <Arx Sylvanran> A judge may overrule the jury, but the jury still gets to have its say.
[21:45] <Eitak_Razal> Clearly he's never been to a Jury trial.
[21:45] <Anthony Suthers> To stop living for oneself and living for others is often praised a society.
[21:45] <Anthony Suthers> While he did not steal through malice, if you believe this man commited an act of virtue when he commited this crime, then you must ask yourselves this.
[21:46] <Anthony Suthers> If he did this knowingly, then he will face his sentence.
[21:46] <Anthony Suthers> The fullest extent of the law is present for a reason.
[21:47] <Anthony Suthers> It is to make sure that there is medicine in the posssession of that doctor when a contributing member of society requires it.
[21:47] <Arx Sylvanran> I believe the question was "[21:42] <Klavier> Would you want this man's hand to be cut off? "
[21:47] <Anthony Suthers> ....
[21:47] <Arx Sylvanran> the court is waiting for an answer.
[21:48] <Anthony Suthers> What does the community of this village think of this man who committed this act?
[21:48] <Anthony Suthers> And what does the community think of the doctor?
[21:48] <Arx Sylvanran> does that matter to your opinion?
[21:48] * Eitak_Razal facepalms again
[21:48] <Anthony Suthers> It does in fact.
[21:48] <Arx Sylvanran> Counsel asked you your specific desire.
[21:49] <Arx Sylvanran> What would be your desire given the facts as stated?
[21:49] <Raihosha> It may become clearer when defense is allowed direct, your honors.
[21:49] <Anthony Suthers> If allowing the man to go free would likely cause the doctor to leave the town, meaning there was NO physician, then I would vote to behand him that the rest of the community have medicine.
[21:49] <Anthony Suthers> .....
[21:50] <Anthony Suthers> Last person who stole the medicine for the sake of their family lost their hand, then I would vote that he lose his hand.
[21:50] <Anthony Suthers> ^if the last.
[21:50] <Arx Sylvanran> Does Counsel have any followup questions, or are we moving to cross?
[21:51] <Anthony Suthers> This is an EXTREMELY confusing and delicate topic, your Honor!
[21:51] <Anthony Suthers> I have answered to the best of my ability.
[21:51] <Arx Sylvanran> The court does not allow witnesses to pontiifcate. It is the job of counsel to ask pointed questions that elicit the truth.
[21:52] <Arx Sylvanran> Witnesses must answer directly and with clarity.
[21:52] <Anthony Suthers> If the question is to allow him to go unpunished or cut off his hand, then the law must be upheld.
[21:52] <Arx Sylvanran> The question was what YOU wanted.
[21:52] <Arx Sylvanran> You, Tony Suthers. Not the law.
[21:53] <Anthony Suthers> No. I would not wish it done. But I would do it myself if ordered.
[21:53] <Raihosha> Mr. Suthers we'll get back to that point on cross. But I think you're trying the courts patience.
[21:53] <Klavier> I believe we are done here, Your Honors.
[21:53] <Arx Sylvanran> I think the defendant has answered the question. Mr. Riahosha, your witness.
[21:53] * Anthony Suthers looks frustrated and bewildered.
[21:54] * Judge Ryan looks stone-faced
[21:54] <Raihosha> Going back to the beginning, Mr. Suthers. You said you had little experience with the use of engines to cut grass?
[21:55] <Anthony Suthers> Y-yes, that is correct.
[21:55] * LOVELYgirl sips some more of her tea, still listening fully
[21:56] <Raihosha> I understand your world had dealt with very limited resources?
[21:56] <Anthony Suthers> Extremely, limited, sir.
[21:58] <Raihosha> And as a matter of fairness, your society became extremely concerned with the distribution of resources via the law?
[21:58] <Anthony Suthers> That is correct.
[21:59] <Raihosha> I would take it then that growing a lawn would have been seen as wasteful of resources?
[21:59] <Anthony Suthers> That is also correct.
[22:00] <Raihosha> So your lack of reaction to a lawn mower should be quite reasonable to the court?
[22:01] <Klavier> Tch...
[22:02] <Raihosha> Sorry, that was more of a rhetorical question. I'll withdraw it if the court prefers.
[22:03] <Arx Sylvanran> ...I'll let it stand if the other judges agree.
[22:04] <LOVELYgirl> No problem here.
[22:04] * Anthony Suthers looks at Ryan.
[22:04] <Judge Ryan> Agreed.
[22:05] * Judge Ryan looks back at Anthony with a steely gaze
[22:05] <Raihosha> Mr. Suthers?
[22:06] <Anthony Suthers> Yes?
[22:07] <Raihosha> You would find it reasonable that one from your background should be unfamiliar with lawnmowers?
[22:07] <Anthony Suthers> I would be amazed that anyone from my home would EVERY associate that sound with freshly cut grass.
[22:08] <Raihosha> On Mr. Klavier's next point... do you listen to music at all?
[22:10] <Anthony Suthers> I do not listen to music for recreational purposes, no.
[22:11] <Arx Sylvanran> looking at the time, I see we are going to have to carry this trial over for another day. Therefore I would like to let counsel know that at 23:00 we will be stopping the trial for the day, to reconvene tomorrow at 20:00.
[22:12] <Raihosha> Did you ever have an opportunity to as you were... I'll use the term growing up, but I realize that might not be accurate for you.
[22:12] <Raihosha> Thank you Your Honor, I'll try to wrap up by then.
[22:13] <Klavier> Thank you.
[22:13] <Raihosha> Sorry, Have an opportunity to listen to music as you were growing up?
[22:14] <Anthony Suthers> I have not had the opportunity to listen to music until I arrived upon this world. In the interest of cooperation with this courtroom, I must begrudgingly admit that concept of maturation does not apply to me.
[22:15] * Arx Sylvanran murmurs to herself
[22:15] <Raihosha> While maturation might not be right, you did go through a period of high mental plasticity as you learned how your world worked?
[22:16] <Anthony Suthers> .....
[22:16] * Anthony Suthers thinks VERY hard.
[22:16] <Anthony Suthers> ....................
[22:16] <Arx Sylvanran> ....
[22:17] <Anthony Suthers> I am not certain of the answer to that question, Counselor.
[22:17] <Arx Sylvanran> Please clarify.
[22:18] <Raihosha> Is it a matter of vocabulary that I used?
[22:18] <Anthony Suthers> Officiators of the Tribunal...
[22:18] <Klavier> Heh.
[22:19] <Anthony Suthers> I am uncertain what to compare the concept of "mental plasticity to."
[22:19] <Arx Sylvanran> Is there something the defenndant would like to say?
[22:19] <Raihosha> Ah.
[22:19] <Arx Sylvanran> Counselor, clarify your question please.
[22:19] <Anthony Suthers> One such as I, at least in the beginning learned about the world around them in a vastly different method than almost any that inhabit this world.
[22:20] <Raihosha> You are able to learn Mr. Suthers?
[22:20] <Anthony Suthers> I am able to learn.
[22:20] <Anthony Suthers> To a great degree, I am able to learn and change, my Sons even more so.
[22:20] <Raihosha> And you had a period in which you learned about your world?
[22:21] * Anthony Suthers thinks and comes to a epiphany.
[22:21] <Anthony Suthers> YEs!
[22:21] <Anthony Suthers> I did! I shall say the answer is yes, it was comparatively brief, hoever.
[22:21] <Raihosha> And during this time you had no exposure to music?
[22:21] <Anthony Suthers> No sir.
[22:22] <Anthony Suthers> Perhaps that would have been different in times of luxury, but it was not true for me.
[22:23] <Raihosha> So until you arrived here, you had no real concept of enjoyment of music?
[22:25] <Anthony Suthers> I have absolutely no memory of being instructed in the things which makes music appealing. Appreciative listening was almost certainly beyond my capability during 99% of my time before I reached this world.
[22:25] <Klavier> Sounds like someone was deficient in their programming
[22:26] * Anthony Suthers suddenly scowls, "Would you care to repeat that, please, prosecutor?"
[22:26] <Arx Sylvanran> "beyond your capability"?
[22:27] * Anthony Suthers obeys the judge before following his anger. "I can elaborate, Madam."
[22:28] <Anthony Suthers> Upon this world there are great records, and many volumes published that discuss and teach approaches of appreciative listening to music.
[22:28] <Arx Sylvanran> Wait.. I'm trying to udnerstand your answer to counselors' question. He asked if you had no real concept of enjoyment of music... you replied that you had no memory of being instructed in the things which make it appealing.
[22:28] <Anthony Suthers> There are also many professional musicians on this world, as that career is not seen as frivolous.
[22:29] <Arx Sylvanran> Without such instruction... what impact would music have on you?
[22:29] <Anthony Suthers> Combined with the lack of records and instructors, as well as practicing musicians and available, I would argue that my exposure to music on my homeworld was stunted, as an understatment.
[22:29] <Anthony Suthers> My reaction to it now?
[22:30] <Arx Sylvanran> My question is, absent instruction, what impact would music have on you.
[22:31] <Anthony Suthers> I would point out that there are no volumes or theories published on how one can appreciate the wind in trees, or zephyrs of autumn leaves. There are no courses to take on how to watch and appreciate a meteor shower... but such events are still amusing, interesting, and often memorable to experience.
[22:32] <Arx Sylvanran> Indeed. Would it have been amusing for you, absent instruction?
[22:32] <Anthony Suthers> Perhaps, though I would not admit it on my homerowld.
[22:32] * Arx Sylvanran nods. "Thank you."
[22:33] <Anthony Suthers> I hope I answered satisfacorily.
[22:33] <Arx Sylvanran> Well, one thing.
[22:33] <Arx Sylvanran> When you first heard music here.... what was your reaction to ti at the time.
[22:34] <Anthony Suthers> Anger followed by amazement.
[22:34] <Arx Sylvanran> Anger?
[22:34] * Arx Sylvanran is confused
[22:35] <Anthony Suthers> When I first arrived upon this world, I appeard on the Island of Kaguya.
[22:35] <Anthony Suthers> The first music I heard of this world was natives of that isle.
[22:35] * Eitak_Razal looks suprised at that stament
[22:36] <Arx Sylvanran> Why did it anger you?
[22:36] <Eitak_Razal> How can he remember that far back, that Tony blew up!
[22:36] <Anthony Suthers> The anger came because such persuits are considered wasteful and irresponsible and are held accountable for not contributing to society. Such was instilled in me for a great deal of time.
[22:36] <Anthony Suthers> I subconsciously drew my weapon, and advanced into the clearing.
[22:37] <Arx Sylvanran> So you were angered because of the existnece of the music as a recrerational pursuit... but the sounds... they had no emotion impact on their own?
[22:37] <Arx Sylvanran> ^emotional
[22:38] * Arx Sylvanran heard Eitak, but even though she;s explorring an existing line of questioning, she can't pose that point. A counselor has to.
[22:38] <Anthony Suthers> The amazement came in realizing that the music served as their OWN form of socialization, and strengthening interpersonal and community bonds to make their group stronger. It was only after I saw this positive benefit that I permitted myself to analyze it with an eye towards possible positive attributes.
[22:38] <Klavier> Wasteful? Irresponsible?
[22:38] <Arx Sylvanran> Yes but... the music itself. The sounds...
[22:38] <Anthony Suthers> I have, I believed, learned a great deal.
[22:39] <Arx Sylvanran> they had no impact other than as a symptom of societal action?
[22:39] <Anthony Suthers> Not at first, no.
[22:39] <Anthony Suthers> Much as one does not analyze the quality and tune or tempo of a bank robbery.
[22:39] <Arx Sylvanran> Very good.
[22:39] <Anthony Suthers> It took me a long time to listen to it objectively enough to have any meaning.
[22:40] <Arx Sylvanran> Raihosha, you can of course cross on these questions as well.
[22:40] <Arx Sylvanran> sorry to step in but I had to have clarity on the point.
[22:40] <Anthony Suthers> Yes madam?
[22:40] <Raihosha> Thank you your Honor.
[22:41] <Anthony Suthers> It was only after I recognized music as a supporting instrument of social order that it held any meaning for me.
[22:41] <Anthony Suthers> I hope that helps.
[22:41] <Raihosha> Mr. Suthers, would you say you have learned to appreciate music aesthetically?
[22:41] <Anthony Suthers> .............No.
[22:42] <Anthony Suthers> I believe I can appreciate it philosophically on a level none can comprehend.
[22:42] <Raihosha> But you do appreciate it for it's role in supporting values your society holds in esteem?
[22:42] * Arx Sylvanran grins to herslef, riahosha asked in what line what she took five questions to articulate.
[22:42] <Anthony Suthers> Music that inspires unity in purpose and cooperation is beatiful music to me.
[22:43] <Arx Sylvanran> ^one line
[22:44] <Anthony Suthers> I feel that it can still be pleasing, however, much like a flower.
[22:45] <Anthony Suthers> They are pleasant things to comtemplate. But both have a purpose.
[22:45] * Anthony Suthers relaxes a little bit.
[22:45] <Raihosha> I understand. You had a very different background than most people here.
[22:48] <Raihosha> And on Mr. Klavier's last point. His hypothetical situation. It sounded like you had a opinion of the old man who stole for his child beyond his guilt?
[22:50] <Anthony Suthers> I did.
[22:50] <Anthony Suthers> I also had a strong opinion of the doctor.
[22:51] <Raihosha> And you have a strong respect for the necessity of the law?
[22:52] <Anthony Suthers> Absolutely,.
[22:52] <Anthony Suthers> I would venture that if it were another subject, my responses would have been more general, and my manner would have been quieter.
[22:53] <Anthony Suthers> But such things matter greatly to me.
[22:54] <Raihosha> And so, despite the fact that you feel that both parties erred in their actions, that the law as described is straightforward in assigning guilt to the old man?
[22:56] <Anthony Suthers> Yes. It is straightforward.
[22:57] <Anthony Suthers> Though that system is far from the ideal form of Law, most regretably.
[22:57] <Raihosha> And, do you think someone else from your society would feel the same?
[22:57] <Anthony Suthers> Nevertheless, the man is guilty.
[22:58] <Anthony Suthers> Of course they would. We are all aware that the Law must be obeyed.
[22:59] <Arx Sylvanran> On that note, I would like to put court in recess for today.
[22:59] <Raihosha> Thank you Mr. Suthers.
[22:59] <Arx Sylvanran> We shall reconvene at 20:00 tomorrow.
[22:59] <Judge Ryan> THE TRIAL... IS PAUSED.
[22:59] * Judge Ryan SHOTS SOMETHING
[22:59] <Judge Ryan> RECESS
[22:59] <Raihosha> I would like to thank the court for their time today.
[22:59] * Arx Sylvanran stands
[23:00] <Arx Sylvanran> Thank you for your service.
[23:00] <Anthony Suthers> I have a request.
[23:00] <Arx Sylvanran> Yes?
[23:00] <Anthony Suthers> It is my duty to serve the system of law, wherever it may be, but I have a request.
[23:00] <Anthony Suthers> Is it customary in hearings such as these that the defendant not be allowed to leave the area?
[23:01] <Arx Sylvanran> Not in this case. You are not accused of a crime.
[23:01] <Anthony Suthers> Wonderful, because I feel it is my DUTY as a father, a souldier, and an inhabitant of this planet to go and protect my eldest son at once.
[23:01] <Arx Sylvanran> But should you not return it would be harder for us to make a determination about your status. So please return her by 20:00 tomorrow.
[23:01] * Eitak_Razal looks mildly annoyed
[23:01] <Arx Sylvanran> ^here
[23:02] <Anthony Suthers> Ignoring the decree of this legal body would be unthinkable. I shall be in attendance.
[23:02] * Anthony Suthers bows respectfully.
[23:02] <Arx Sylvanran> Very good.
[23:02] <Klavier> We shall see you tomorrow, then.
[23:02] <Arx Sylvanran> Court is in recess.
[23:02] * Arx Sylvanran steps down from the bench.
[23:03] <Paisley Pythia Peinforte> ...
[23:03] * Judge Ryan shots something else to celebrate the recess
[23:03] * Raihosha goes and shakes Klavier's hand.
[23:03] * Paisley Pythia Peinforte teleports in front of Arx
[23:03] * Paisley Pythia Peinforte shoves her
[23:03] * Judge Ryan removes his Judge's uniform
[23:03] * Judge Ryan is now known as Ryan
[23:03] * Arx Sylvanran takes the shove.
[23:03] <@Ryan> Are we having a schoolyard fight?!
[23:03] <Raihosha> An interesting direction, one I hadn't considered.
[23:03] <Paisley Pythia Peinforte> Does this make you feel good, playing some kind of god?
[23:04] * Arx Sylvanran braces herself slightly.
[23:04] <Arx Sylvanran> You're misjudging me.
[23:04] <Paisley Pythia Peinforte> Oh, that's a funny pun, "your honor".
[23:05] <Klavier> Thank you, Herr Raihosha.
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[23:05] <@spiritflame> irasshai Thrash
[23:05] * @Ryan randomly shoves someone
[23:05] <Paisley Pythia Peinforte> I can see _your whole timeline_.
[23:05] <Raihosha> This should be an interesting trial.
[23:05] * Thrash wanders in....
[23:05] <Thrash> >.> <.<
[23:05] <Arx Sylvanran> Witch.
[23:05] <Klavier> To tell you the truth, these past days I've been studying psychology rather intently.
[23:05] <Paisley Pythia Peinforte> Oh, the irony of hearing YOU say that.
[23:05] <@Ryan> Dat's racist.
[23:05] * Eitak_Razal walks over to Klavier and waits for him and Rai to finish speaking
[23:06] <Paisley Pythia Peinforte> Is this your stupid way of trying to atone?
[23:06] * Thrash tries to look nonchalant
[23:06] * Arx Sylvanran stiffens, turns her back and just walks out.
[23:06] *** Arx Sylvanran [arx_s@justitia.panopticon.gallifrey.sen] has quit IRC (To the innocent, I am an angel; to the guilty, Vengeance.)
[23:06] <@Ryan> NOT TRYING HARD ENOUGH SLASH
[23:06] <Thrash> ...
[23:06] * @Ryan hands Slash a guitar and directs him on-stage
[23:06] <Raihosha> Ah. They have an interesting take on Artificial Intelligence.
[23:06] <@Ryan> AXEL'S WAITING FOR YOU
[23:07] *** LOVELYgirl [amongimmortals@otherworld.net] has left #suburbansenshi2 (In a louder voice/with a greater love.)
[23:07] * Eitak_Razal looks up at Ryan. "You're annoying. Got it Memorized?"
[23:07] <Raihosha> It looks like Eitak wishes to speak to you Mr. Klavier.
[23:07] * Thrash looks at the scrap of paper in his hand...
[23:07] <@Ryan> I don't care what you think! Got THAT memorized?
[23:07] <Thrash> ..hm...
[23:08] <@Ryan> If not, there's a gift-shop nearby selling t-shirts with it printed on them.
[23:08] <@Ryan> Not to mention nifty hats.
[23:08] <@Ryan> And coffee cups.
[23:08] <Raihosha> I'll leave you to her... just remember she's a planetary ruler, so keep the flirtation to a minimum. :)
[23:08] * Klavier turns to Eitak
[23:09] <Eitak_Razal> I wouldn't mind being flirted with, people who aren't interested in my power would be a nice change from the types I normally get
[23:09] * Thrash hurries back out
[23:09] *** Thrash has left #suburbansenshi2 (..can't trust paisly or Arx with this one....at all)
[23:09] * Eitak_Razal coughs and holds out what appears to be a disc.
[23:09] * Anthony Suthers looks a long time at Klavier
[23:10] * Anthony Suthers looks at Klavier.
[23:10] *** Klavier is a prosecutor by day and rock star by night. He has tanned skin, blond hair, blue eyes, and a slight German accent. More information about him is Here.
His image Song is: Guilty Love.

[23:11] <Klavier> Hmm? What might this be, fraulein?
[23:11] <Eitak_Razal> Some evidence a close freind was willing to let us copy from her memories. I'm not sure how useful it would be, but at least knowing about might help.
[23:14] <Klavier> Hmm. I will take a look at it.
[23:14] * Anthony Suthers stands and walks over to Klavier.
[23:14] * Klavier puts it in his guitar case.
[23:14] <Klavier> Herr Suthers.
[23:14] <Anthony Suthers> ...Sir.
[23:15] <Anthony Suthers> I noticed you made a rather rude and insensitive comment about me during the trial.
[23:16] <Anthony Suthers> Now, note that I am not upset at you now.
[23:17] <Anthony Suthers> Hoewver, should the Court decide that I am entiteled to an apology, I shall expect one from you.
[23:18] <Klavier> Noted, Herr Suthers.
[23:19] <Anthony Suthers> Thank you, and have a pleasant evening.
[23:21] *** Klavier [k_gavin@thegavinners.com] has left #suburbansenshi2 (Achtung, baby! Today we play it my way!)
[23:25] *** Sarah Christensson has joined #suburbansenshi2
[23:25] <@spiritflame> irasshai Sarah Christensson
[23:26] * Sarah Christensson walks down the stairs, wearing a white dress and a wreath with candles on her head
[23:27] <Sarah Christensson> would anyone like some cookies?
[23:27] <Raihosha> Yes please, Santa Lucia!
[23:27] * Sarah Christensson giggles at the recongination and hands a cookie out to Rai
[23:27] <Eitak_Razal> .... I would. But dare I ask why you are dressed like something out of A Christmas Carol?
[23:28] * Raihosha noms.
[23:28] <Eitak_Razal> Is this all a dream. Am I going to have to go though three ghosts? Are you a ghost again!?
[23:29] <Raihosha> You need more swedish culture Eitak.
[23:30] <Sarah Christensson> tonight is Saint Lucia Night
[23:30] <Sarah Christensson> back in sweden..the eldest daughter of the family is suppose to dress up as St Lucia..and bring coffee and cookies
[23:30] <Sarah Christensson> the coffee is still being made I'm afraid
[23:30] <Eitak_Razal> I don't care for coffee anyways so I'll just take cookies
[23:31] * Sarah Christensson gives a cookie to Eitak
[23:32] <Anthony Suthers> Raihosha. I wish to offer you my sincerest thanks.
[23:33] <Raihosha> It is my pleasure Mr. Suthers.
[23:33] <Anthony Suthers> You are one of the most loyal and valiant upholders of order I have ever have the priveledge of knowing.
[23:33] <Anthony Suthers> If your counsel succeeds, I will do my best to repay you and keep my promise...
[23:34] <Raihosha> With a friend like Aescapulus hanging around I'd feel very guilty if I let biochauvanism get in the way of your day in court.
[23:34] <Anthony Suthers> Should you fail.... I suppose you are one of the people I'd most like to claim me.
[23:34] <Anthony Suthers> If the court rules me property, I shall not contest its interpretation of the law.
[23:34] <Anthony Suthers> Your Majesty?
[23:34] * Anthony Suthers looks at Eitak_Razal.
[23:34] *** Eitak_Razal is is a young woman with red hair that reaches past her shoulders and green eyes. She stands about 5'9". She is the Queen of Neggerra and is often in a green dress and wearing a circlet., though she might be in something difrent today.
image Song is: Time Is Changing .

[23:35] <Raihosha> We'll see how the court rules.
[23:35] <Anthony Suthers> I wish the Miko were here. She can give me the Power I need.
[23:36] <Raihosha> What kind of power?
[23:36] <Anthony Suthers> It's... complicated.
[23:37] <Anthony Suthers> Eitak, I was hoping you might consider declassifying something for me?
[23:37] <Raihosha> Electricity I can manage...
[23:37] <Raihosha> Reiatsu... well I manipulate different stuff...
[23:38] <Anthony Suthers> If it were an emergency, I would accept your offer of nourishment.
[23:38] * Sarah Christensson pours some coffee "who would like coffee"
[23:38] <Anthony Suthers> However, the adapters are VERY tricky.
[23:39] <Anthony Suthers> I'd like some coffee.
[23:39] <Raihosha> Ah.
[23:39] * Sarah Christensson hands tony a mug
[23:39] <Anthony Suthers> And... I consider it somewhat immoral to accept your Power when the Goddess could sustain me instead.
[23:39] <Eitak_Razal> Depends on what you need Tony. I am hesitant to give you any inormation until after the trial
[23:40] <Eitak_Razal> ...rei.bot doesn't like you last I checked
[23:40] <Anthony Suthers> I served as your operative and emissary. I would like that operation declassified, in order to use it as evidence.
[23:41] <Eitak_Razal> I fail to see the harm in doing so. And It would be wrong of me to with-hold evidance. And the info wasn't classified to anyone here anyways
[23:42] <Sarah Christensson> anyone else?
[23:43] <Anthony Suthers> I would point out that I do not wish to endanger your sovereignty, (drinks some coffee) I believe I have vaguely mentioned that the law is more important than my freedom... or standing.
[23:43] <Anthony Suthers> If you had not declassified it, I would not protest.
[23:43] <Raihosha> Although... his counsel might. ^_^
[23:44] <Eitak_Razal> Indeed. I figured Rai would <.<
[23:44] <Eitak_Razal> Though to be specific, which operation are you refering to tony. I recall two events that could fall under such a label
[23:46] <Anthony Suthers> The one where I was not alone.
[23:46] <Eitak_Razal> The trip to Lore?
[23:46] * Anthony Suthers nods.
[23:47] * Eitak_Razal laughs to herself. "I fail to see what evidance you can get out of that. But alright
[23:48] * Eitak_Razal sits down and pulls out her laptop and pulls up the files. And Prints them off and hands them to Rai.
[23:48] <Eitak_Razal> The information.
[23:49] <Anthony Suthers> I'd like to extract those files myself, Your Majesty.
[23:49] <Eitak_Razal> I refuse
[23:49] <Eitak_Razal> I have nothing to hide but I do not want you poking around in my system
[23:49] <Eitak_Razal> I will give Rai that privalage but not you.
[23:50] <Raihosha> Can you look at the printout and make sure nothing pertinent has been redacted?
[23:50] <Anthony Suthers> ...
[23:50] * Raihosha hands over the printouts...
[23:51] <Raihosha> I'll pull out the file again if that would make you feel better Mr. Suthers...
[23:51] * Eitak_Razal passes Rai her computer
[23:52] <Anthony Suthers> Marginally.
[23:52] <Anthony Suthers> I'm confused a bit by her refusal, since I was actually THERE.
[23:52] * Raihosha looks at the file system, makes sure he can use the system.
[23:53] <Anthony Suthers> This is pointless and irresponsible.
[23:53] * Eitak_Razal has already pulled up the relevant files. Actully most of the files on Tony aren't even under lock and key.
[23:53] * Raihosha finds the files on Lore.
[23:54] * Eitak_Razal has dozens upon dozens of files on that planet. Many of them are locked but a few are not
[23:54] <Anthony Suthers> I must see to my eldest sone at once. And Mr. Raihosha, I'm already more proud than I could have ever conceived that I invited you to see the unveiling of my son.
[23:54] *** Sarah Christensson has left #suburbansenshi2 (*heads back upstairs*)
[23:54] <Raihosha> YOu have a nice database here...
[23:54] <Anthony Suthers> I'm sure that if I can't thank you enough, then he can.
[23:55] * Anthony Suthers walks off to get his weapons.
[23:55] *** Anthony Suthers [Anthony@WhateverIsNecessary.gov] has quit IRC (There WILL be order.)
[23:55] <Eitak_Razal> The world of lore held my interset for a long time
[23:55] <Raihosha> So, what's with all the locked files?
[23:55] <Eitak_Razal> I had a hand in some events that shaped it's future
[23:55] <Eitak_Razal> Personal files. Some on people
[23:56] <Raihosha> Your personal?
[23:56] <Raihosha> Or someone elses personal?
[23:57] * Eitak_Razal sighs. "They are part of my past. You'll note most of those files have creation date from before I came here"
[23:58] <Eitak_Razal> They are from my time among a group called "The Truth Seekers"
[23:58] <Eitak_Razal> They are not relavent to tony, at all.
[23:58] * Eitak_Razal 's face shows she's being serious, but really doesn't want to talk about this subject
[23:58] <Raihosha> Well, if they come before TOny's time I'll let them lay.
[23:59] <Raihosha> Mind if I just get a software copy?
[00:00] <Eitak_Razal> Knock yourself out
[00:00] <Eitak_Razal> Also. I will mentione these are all MY files. Niveks files are locked up so Tight that even I can't get to them
[00:00] * Raihosha pulls out ... well it looks like a thumb drive...
[00:01] <Raihosha> If it were important I'm sure we'd figure something out.
[00:02] * Raihosha drags the appropriate files to the drive.
[00:03] * Raihosha detaches the thumbdrive.
[00:03] <Raihosha> Aescapulus thanks you.
[00:03] <Eitak_Razal> Whatever...
[00:03] <Raihosha> He likes reading new things.
[00:04] <Eitak_Razal> Sounds like Nivek
[00:05] <Raihosha> He reads faster than Nivek.
[00:05] <Raihosha> And he's smarter, as far as I can tell.
[00:06] * Eitak_Razal raises an eyebrow "And what are you implying about my brother?
[00:06] <Raihosha> That your brother doesn't have multiple brains measured in miles of diameter?
[00:06] * Eitak_Razal laughs
[00:06] <Bixia Yuanjin> That is the catch! :O
[00:07] <Raihosha> It is the book girl! :O
[00:08] * Bixia Yuanjin waveswaves
[00:08] <Raihosha> If I stick a usb in your belly button can I copy you to a computer file? ^__^
[00:08] <Bixia Yuanjin> No >:|
[00:10] <Raihosha> Ever tried?
[00:11] * Bixia Yuanjin pokes her bellybutton
[00:11] <Bixia Yuanjin> No interface.
[00:12] <Bixia Yuanjin> That's like asking "If I cram a shelled walnut up your nose can I plant it and get a Raihosha tree."
[00:13] <Raihosha> Darn. Aescapulus would like to meet you at some point.
[00:13] <Bixia Yuanjin> Kinda singular. :D
[00:14] <Raihosha> ... And while I could arrange a Raihosha tree it would be a lot more work than an unshelled walnut.
[00:16] <Raihosha> Well, we'll have to arrange a trip to him for you at some point Bixia.
[00:16] <Bixia Yuanjin> Kay!
[00:17] <Raihosha> And heck, I'm sure MGT would love to show off his sisters to you.
[00:18] * Bixia Yuanjin nodsnods!
[00:19] <Raihosha> Speaking of which... I should head back.
[00:20] <Raihosha> Night guys.
[00:20] *** Raihosha [visitor@nacom.aegis.int] has left #suburbansenshi2 (as the universe wills.)
[00:22] <Sarah Christensson> would you like some cookies and coffee, bixia?
[00:22] * Sarah Christensson has relit the candles on the wreath around her head
[00:23] <Bixia Yuanjin> Sure.
[00:23] <Bixia Yuanjin> nice hat :o
[00:26] <Sarah Christensson> oh thank you! I'm dressed as St Lucia!
[00:27] <Bixia Yuanjin> Whoozat~
[00:29] <Sarah Christensson> oh she's a saint who's feast day lands on this day...in my home country of sweden we celebrate it
[00:30] <Sarah Christensson> some people call her St Lucy
[00:31] * Bixia Yuanjin nods thoughtfully, enjoys coffee
[00:31] <Sarah Christensson> usually the elder daughter dressed up for it
[00:34] <Sarah Christensson> I'm an only child so...heh
[00:41] <Sarah Christensson> it's sort of fun to dress like this once again...I haven't dressed this way since I was 16...the first time
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[11:42] <@spiritflame> irasshai Cora
[11:45] * Cora sits in the window seat with a book, but does not appear to actually read much
[11:49] *** Sarah Christensson has joined #suburbansenshi2
[11:49] <@spiritflame> irasshai Sarah Christensson
[11:50] * Sarah Christensson walks downstairs, yawning
[11:50] <Sarah Christensson> hm? oh hi, Cora
[11:51] <Cora> Hi Sarah.
[11:56] <Sarah Christensson> how are you today?
[12:03] <Cora> Hm?
[12:04] <Cora> I am sorry, I seem to be distracted.
[12:04] <Sarah Christensson> is everything alright?
[12:05] * Sarah Christensson is trying to pull candle wax out of her hair
[12:06] <Cora> I..um...I do not know.
[12:09] <Sarah Christensson> what's wrong?
[12:12] <Cora> I am not sure.
[12:13] <Cora> Simon has some kind of plan with his work, but I do not know what it is.
[12:14] <Cora> Some of the statements he made were...strange.
[12:17] <Sarah Christensson> that husband of yours gives me the creeps honestly...
[12:19] <Cora> What do you mean?
[12:20] <Sarah Christensson> I don't know..just...this feeling he gives off
[12:22] <Cora> He has always been kind to me. Perhaps it is because you do not know him very well.
[12:26] <Sarah Christensson> that very well might be so!
[12:27] <Cora> He is very worried, but I do no know what it is about. I am unsure of what to do.
[12:28] <Sarah Christensson> have you tried to talk to him about it?
[12:31] <Cora> I asked when he brought it up but he did not say. I could not ask him again...
[12:32] * Sarah Christensson offers Cora a cookie
[12:34] <Cora> Oh. Thank you.
[12:36] <Sarah Christensson> you're welcome ^_^;;; <---*still has candle wax stuck to her hair*
[12:38] * Cora nibbles at it, then tucks it into the folds of her dress
[12:41] <Cora> I am not very hungry now; I will eat it later.
[12:42] <Sarah Christensson> ok ^^ YEOWCH *is trying to pull the wax out*
[12:43] <Cora> Perhaps I should ask..how did wax get in your hair?
[12:44] <Sarah Christensson> from...wearing the candle wreath yesterday
[12:44] <Cora> A candle wreath?
[12:46] <Sarah Christensson> it was St Lucia's Day yesterday....gah...why won't this stuff come off
[12:49] <Cora> Have you tried olive oil?
[12:49] <Sarah Christensson> ..no..does that work?
[12:50] <Cora> Yes, quite well. And then wash your hair with very hot water.
[12:51] <Cora> We used a lot of candles in the temple.
[12:51] <Sarah Christensson> oh thanks!!!
[12:53] <Cora> I should go, I have household duties to attend to.
[12:53] *** Cora has left #suburbansenshi2
[12:54] *** Sarah Christensson has left #suburbansenshi2 (now where is that olive oil...)
[14:16] *** LOVELYgirl [amongimmortals@otherworld.net] has joined #suburbansenshi2
[14:16] <@spiritflame> irasshai LOVELYgirl
[14:18] * LOVELYgirl sets Zan down to run around and plops down on a couch
[14:26] * a van stops in front of the house.....
[14:26] * a man walks up to the front door and knocks on it
[14:28] * LOVELYgirl pulls out her phone and sends a text
[14:29] <LOVELYgirl> It's open!
[14:29] *** Seiji Hokuto has joined #suburbansenshi2
[14:29] <@spiritflame> irasshai Seiji Hokuto
[14:29] * Seiji Hokuto walks in with a box
[14:30] <Seiji Hokuto> afternoon!!!
[14:30] * Seiji Hokuto walks in with a spring in his step
[14:30] <LOVELYgirl> Hi!
[14:30] * LOVELYgirl looks at Seiji Hokuto.
[14:30] *** Seiji Hokuto is older man with short black hair, a face slightly worn with age and a twinkle in his eyes. He gives off an unusual aura.
His image Song is: .

[14:31] <Seiji Hokuto> (( crap forgot something ))
[14:32] <Seiji Hokuto> (( there it's fixed ))
[14:32] * LOVELYgirl sniffs a bit
[14:32] <LOVELYgirl> Helloo~ ^_^
[14:33] <Seiji Hokuto> hello there! I'm going around and offering samples of fresh bread from my bakery! I was wondering if you would like some
[14:33] <LOVELYgirl> Sure!
[14:34] * Zalan[fur] changes direction and runs over, smelling food smells
[14:35] * Seiji Hokuto smiles down at Zalan and opens the box, revealing bread of all kinds
[14:36] <Seiji Hokuto> have a sample ^_^
[14:38] <LOVELYgirl> Hmm...
[14:39] <Seiji Hokuto> hm?
[14:39] * LOVELYgirl picks one that smells good, breaking off a small piece or two for Zan first
[14:41] * Zalan[fur] eats, then sniffs at Seiji again
[14:41] * Seiji Hokuto smells of bread and...stardust and light
[14:42] <LOVELYgirl> It's good ^_^
[14:42] <Seiji Hokuto> ^_^
[14:43] * Zalan[fur] stares at Seiji like he's trying to figure something out, then sends a mental greeting
[14:43] <Seiji Hokuto> oh! before I forget
[14:43] * Seiji Hokuto digs out a business card and offers it to Miara
[14:44] * Seiji Hokuto smiles down at Zalan...sending back a mental greeting
[14:45] * LOVELYgirl takes the card and tacks it on the message board
[14:51] <LOVELYgirl> Lots of people come here, so it's a good place to leave things.
[14:52] * Zalan[fur] is now known as Zalan
[14:54] * Zalan waves at Seiji, his Ultra stripe now more visible under his shift
[14:54] <Seiji Hokuto> always a smart move! I just moved my establishment from Kyoto to tokyo..so I'm looking for some customers ^^;;
[14:54] * Seiji Hokuto waves back to Zalan ^^
[14:55] <LOVELYgirl> Well, if it's good you'll survive here. Plus, you're nice ^_^ Isn't he apaa?
[14:55] <LOVELYgirl> (( brb, and FYI i had to change browsers and can't see the sidebar now ))
[15:03] * Zalan grins, peering over at the box
[15:07] * Seiji Hokuto has brought pieces of bread
[15:09] * Zalan bables something, looking unhappy
[15:09] <Seiji Hokuto> fine son you have
[15:10] <LOVELYgirl> Hee, most of the time. I hope you didn't come all this way just to see him?
[15:11] <Seiji Hokuto> not at all!
[15:13] <Seiji Hokuto> I should get going anyway
[15:13] <LOVELYgirl> Okay. Hee, I'll if I can get Taki to go over to your shop and surprise him.
[15:14] * Seiji Hokuto grins "you havea great sense of humor there"
[15:14] <LOVELYgirl> That'd be fun ^_^
[15:16] <Zalan> Fuuuuu!
[15:17] <Seiji Hokuto> see you later maybe!
[15:18] <LOVELYgirl> Later! Have a good day ^_^
[15:19] *** Seiji Hokuto has left #suburbansenshi2 (*drives off in his van*)
[15:19] <Zalan> Biii! *waves*
[15:25] <LOVELYgirl> Hm...That was fun, ne?
[15:25] * LOVELYgirl gets a text back
[15:27] <LOVELYgirl> Well, that's about what I expected, I guess.
[15:29] * LOVELYgirl texts Taki next to see when he's free
[15:30] * Zalan lies on Miara's shoulder, starting to go to sleep
[15:34] * Taki Kensei texts back that he'll be free in another hour
[15:37] <LOVELYgirl> Meh. But I'm excited about it now :/ Hopefully he doesn't mind, ne, apaa?
[15:39] * Zalan yawns, mostly dozed off now
[15:40] <Zalan> /awau
[15:40] * Zalan is away 
[16:13] *** LOVELYgirl [amongimmortals@otherworld.net] has left #suburbansenshi2 (In a louder voice/with a greater love.)
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[16:15] <@spiritflame> irasshai Simon Kerrick
[16:15] * Simon Kerrick enters the room, with thoughts of darkness and doubt in the recesses of his mind.
[16:18] * Simon Kerrick walks over to the window, and squints his eyes as he looks at the light of the sun.
[16:31] * Simon Kerrick is away: Well, too late to turn back now.
[19:49] *** Arx Sylvanran [arx_s@justitia.panopticon.gallifrey.sen] has joined #suburbansenshi2
[19:49] <@spiritflame> irasshai Arx Sylvanran
[19:50] * Arx Sylvanran hops up to her center seat on the judge's bench
[19:51] *** Inspector Pepper [l.pepper@SPD.or.jp.ea] has joined #suburbansenshi2
[19:51] <@spiritflame> irasshai Inspector Pepper
[19:51] <Judge Ryan> LAWL
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[19:57] <@spiritflame> irasshai Raihosha
[19:58] * Raihosha makes his way to the defendants bench.
[19:59] * Judge Ryan is already sitting down, waiting
[20:01] * Arx Sylvanran is ready.
[20:01] *** Klavier [k_gavin@thegavinners.com] has joined #suburbansenshi2
[20:01] <@spiritflame> irasshai Klavier
[20:01] <Klavier> Hmm.
[20:02] <Klavier> Where is our defendant?
[20:02] <Arx Sylvanran> Late.
[20:03] <Arx Sylvanran> If he isn't here in 10 minutes, for the sake of expediency, I would propose we defer the continuation of his cross-examination and move onto the next witness.
[20:03] <Raihosha> He said something about his eldest son last night, I'll hope he isn't indisposed...
[20:04] <Judge Ryan> Just when I thought I was going to be able to take my hammer and say 'Court is in session!'
[20:04] <Arx Sylvanran> Well, it's not a criminal case, so his presence isn't strictly nedded right now, but at some point we will need to conclude the line if enquiry from last night.
[20:04] <Arx Sylvanran> ^line of
[20:05] <Raihosha> And I have some questions for him on defense direct...
[20:08] <Arx Sylvanran> You are all raising interesting questions.
[20:09] <Klavier> It appears I also owe him an apology.
[20:09] <Klavier> And I didn't even get to the gazpacho last night, eitehr.
[20:11] <Raihosha> Mind if I go ahead and link some evidence for the court to consider while we wait?
[20:11] <Judge Ryan> Hell, we're having to wait anyway.
[20:12] <Raihosha> PDF of a paper.
[20:12] <Arx Sylvanran> If you're prepared ot argue it with counsel... well the defendant has only two minutes left.
[20:12] <Arx Sylvanran> Is there a witness handy to jump to?
[20:12] <Judge Ryan> It's moments like this where I wish I could say, 'Your face!'
[20:13] <Klavier> Unfortunately...
[20:14] <Raihosha> A second PDF paper.
[20:14] <Arx Sylvanran> My face would have a conflict of interest.
[20:14] <Klavier> There were some points taht I wanted to discuss with Herr Suthers in regards to his views on justice.
[20:14] <Judge Ryan> It would be hilarious, though.
[20:15] * Arx Sylvanran leans back.
[20:15] <Raihosha> They are, of course, from a human perspective. But I think they add up to the salient points.
[20:16] <Klavier> What I have established through Herr Suthers' arguments is that he views right and wrong in terms of black and white.
[20:16] <Arx Sylvanran> The question is why.
[20:17] <Arx Sylvanran> Does he do so from a moral code, or because he is literally "programmed to".
[20:17] <Raihosha> It is pretty clear he understands the law.
[20:17] <Arx Sylvanran> Does hie moral code exist as something innate and developed, or something just downloaded from a server?
[20:17] <Klavier> Does he understand the how and why of how people view the law?
[20:18] <Arx Sylvanran> I can memorize a law book and know the law.
[20:18] <Raihosha> Are you so different in your "programming", your honor?
[20:18] <Arx Sylvanran> Hmm.
[20:19] <Arx Sylvanran> But I have-- and this may be wrong for a judge to say-- the ability to discard the strictures of the law.
[20:19] <Raihosha> He has emotion, he had a quite deprived upbringing? He certainly has the capacity to learn.
[20:19] <Arx Sylvanran> If I see someone suffering, I will save them.
[20:19] *** Suu [FourLeafClover@clampgakuen.ac.jp] has joined #suburbansenshi2
[20:19] <@spiritflame> irasshai Suu
[20:20] <Arx Sylvanran> Yes. He does seem to.
[20:20] <Raihosha> So would I. But there are humans who wouldn't, according to a tale in one of the human holy books.
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[20:20] <@spiritflame> irasshai Thrash
[20:21] * Thrash sits down, listening
[20:21] * Suu glances over at Raihosha and then tosses her head
[20:21] <Arx Sylvanran> My concern is this.
[20:21] * Judge Ryan wants to join in on the head tossing
[20:21] * Klavier notices Suu's attitude and decides to talk to her later.
[20:22] <Arx Sylvanran> yesterday he said he had certain feelings about the matter of enforcing the law against the hypothetical thief, but he would if he were ordered to.
[20:22] <Klavier> Hmm.
[20:22] <Arx Sylvanran> I need to know if that stems from the simple desire to obey a chain of command
[20:22] <Arx Sylvanran> as in any soldier.
[20:23] <Arx Sylvanran> Or if it's a hardcoded limitation.
[20:23] <Arx Sylvanran> Lifeforms, as I see it, are tabula rasa in many many ways.
[20:24] <Raihosha> Well, he hasn't had a lot of information on his background come out...
[20:25] <Arx Sylvanran> If Suthers is a premanufactured "product" that, while capable of learning, growing and evolving, is still rigidly locked by arbitrary preprogrammed limits that would forever preclude certain degrees of freedom that any sentient lifeform would be expected to have
[20:25] <Raihosha> But it seems clear he was brought up in a police state of the most repressive type. That doesn't mean he doesn't have A code of ethics.
[20:25] <Eitak_Razal> I did state a theroy that if I ordered him to do something illeagal using my postion, he'd follow it useing the logic "Queen makes the rules, therefor if she says it's ok, it's ok"
[20:25] <Arx Sylvanran> then I might not be disposed to think of him as a truly sentient being.
[20:25] <Judge Ryan> Lot of people in history has followed that sort of thought, Eitak.
[20:26] <Judge Ryan> Also "If a president does something, then it isn't illegal." to paraphrase a certain famous president.
[20:26] <Arx Sylvanran> I would like counsel to consider my thoughts on this. It's important to see how much of suthers is "human" and how much is "simulation with limits"
[20:26] * Klavier nods "I quite agree, Herr Ryan"
[20:26] <Eitak_Razal> That is true as well, which is is part of the reason we can't test said theroy. Also it's illegeal
[20:26] <Arx Sylvanran> If he's more limits than simulation...
[20:27] <Arx Sylvanran> But if he's more simulation that limits...
[20:27] <Raihosha> I think his ethical code will be the matter of my defense direct.
[20:27] <Arx Sylvanran> And how severe or not those limits are...
[20:27] <Arx Sylvanran> ^than limits
[20:27] <Arx Sylvanran> At any rate, it's up to you now, as I think the defendant may be back now,
[20:28] <Raihosha> Did you want a re-direct Mr. Klavier?
[20:29] <Klavier> (( I have no idea what you just asked me for ))
[20:29] <Inspector Pepper> Do we know who built Mr. Suthers?
[20:30] <Arx Sylvanran> (( a line of questioning meant to clear up issues raised on cross, or counter points made there ))
[20:31] <Raihosha> I have a name, Inspector, but it doesn't mean anything to me... and it may or may not be admissible.
[20:31] <Klavier> When Herr Suthers is ready, I do want to clarify those matters of his moral code.
[20:31] <Arx Sylvanran> Laws of evidence in the Expedited Trial system are fairly liberal.
[20:32] * Eitak_Razal grins to herself
[20:32] * Thrash listens intently to this
[20:32] <Arx Sylvanran> What matters is the discussion, and the truth that comes from it.
[20:33] <Raihosha> Well, considering it comes from a deleted timeline it may be unnecessarily prejudicial to my client.
[20:33] <Arx Sylvanran> "unnecessarily" in what sense.
[20:34] <Arx Sylvanran> Is your client highly diverged from the one in the other timeline?
[20:34] <Arx Sylvanran> Or does that information give more insight into limitations on his behavior imposed by his nature?
[20:35] <Raihosha> In the sense that it resulted from a unique situation. He has developed differently here.
[20:35] * Klavier looks over the evidence Eitak gave him...
[20:35] <Raihosha> And I do have concern about causing him distress by the actions performed against him in that timeline...
[20:36] <Arx Sylvanran> But information from that timeline as it pertains to his behavior and how it is goverened... would that be inapplicable to this timeline?
[20:36] <Arx Sylvanran> or do the same rules apply.
[20:36] <Arx Sylvanran> If they do still apply, they are germane issues.
[20:36] <Raihosha> I'm not sure there is much evidence either way in that evidence.
[20:37] <Raihosha> He is certainly driven, but whether it is inbuilt or not seems inconclusive.
[20:37] <Arx Sylvanran> then we need to determine that.
[20:38] <Arx Sylvanran> See my words from before. My fellow judges may differ from me of course, but I know it;s one question I'd like to see answered before I rule on his "humanity" or lack thereof
[20:38] <Raihosha> Although, from what I've... your basic question is whether he can go beyond his programming?
[20:38] <Arx Sylvanran> No, it's a bit deeper.
[20:39] <Arx Sylvanran> It's how much of that programming is immutable and unchangeable as it pertains to limits on his ability to make changes to his behaviro that any reasonable sentient would eb able to do.
[20:40] <Arx Sylvanran> I may be a soldier, but i can refuse orders, even if they are vetted by my entire chain of command.
[20:40] <Arx Sylvanran> Even if they are totally "legal".
[20:40] <Raihosha> whether he... can evolve new drives that are beyond inbuilt limits? or wether he can disobey period?
[20:41] <Arx Sylvanran> If he cannot disobey... he is merely a machine in the basest sense.
[20:41] <Arx Sylvanran> And the literary sense.
[20:41] <Raihosha> There are plenty of humans who could disobey but won't.
[20:41] <Arx Sylvanran> That is only my view.
[20:41] <Klavier> Hmm.
[20:41] <Klavier> hmmmmmmmmm.
[20:41] <Arx Sylvanran> I'm asking if he literarlly can't
[20:41] <Arx Sylvanran> Cannot disobey.
[20:42] <Arx Sylvanran> Could but won't is fine. That's human.
[20:42] <Arx Sylvanran> Cowardly, but human.
[20:42] <Raihosha> THat's an interesting question...
[20:42] * Klavier strikes an air guitar riff
[20:42] <Arx Sylvanran> Can't period because of inbuilt personaility programming? That's the hallmark of a tool.
[20:42] <Klavier> Wasn't there...some sort of experiment conducted on men in the 60s?
[20:43] <Klavier> About following orders?
[20:43] <Judge Ryan> Random thought: Take a human being and put them in a situation where they've been condition from birth to only obey a certain someone and then ask them to rebel against them. What would you get?
[20:43] <Raihosha> Yes... give me a moment, I'll come up with the name...
[20:43] <Arx Sylvanran> A good point.
[20:44] <Arx Sylvanran> But conditioning can be broken without destroying the individual.
[20:44] <Raihosha> The Stanford Prison Experiment.
[20:44] <Arx Sylvanran> What happens if we break Suther's programming?
[20:44] <Arx Sylvanran> Does he shut down? Accept it?
[20:44] <Arx Sylvanran> Attack?
[20:45] * Arx Sylvanran looks up the experiment on her info visor
[20:45] <Raihosha> He may have systems that will treat it as an attack. It could be dangerous.
[20:45] <Judge Ryan> Another random thought: if you wanna look at a human being this way... we're just flesh machines. We're programmed from birth by our parents and society.
[20:45] <Arx Sylvanran> That was more a case of authority being given to regular indivudals who queickly became corrupt.
[20:45] <Arx Sylvanran> Yes, but we can be elevated above our cuktural programming, even still.
[20:45] <Arx Sylvanran> Can he?
[20:46] <Eitak_Razal> It's easier for a human to adapt and change Ryan.
[20:46] <Raihosha> True, but the speed with which it happened was the surpise Arx.
[20:46] <Eitak_Razal> Also, I know many people that are condioned one way as children but utterly lothe it
[20:46] <Arx Sylvanran> Judge Ryan.
[20:46] <Judge Ryan> I'll give you this: For some people, yes. Others, no.
[20:46] <Judge Ryan> AND THE JUDGE IS BEING QUIET NOW
[20:47] <Arx Sylvanran> But as long as some can, it's evidence that a hukman can
[20:47] <Eitak_Razal> Religon is big one, I know many people who don't agree with their parent's views. Poltics as well.
[20:47] <Judge Ryan> OH WAIT
[20:47] <Arx Sylvanran> /'me was telling eitak to use the honorifi JUDGE
[20:47] <Judge Ryan> NEVER MIND THAT WASN'T A REPRIMAND TO ME
[20:47] <Judge Ryan> CALL ME JUDGE RYAN
[20:47] <Raihosha> I apologize Judge Arx for my own lapse.
[20:48] <Judge Ryan> Or I use my mythological, magical hammer that I plan on officially introducing next month.
[20:48] <Arx Sylvanran> Heh.
[20:48] * Eitak_Razal honestly doesn't care, unless people are going to start calling her Queen Eitak during all this, she really doesn't care.
[20:49] <Arx Sylvanran> You're in a court of law, respect the venue.
[20:49] <Judge Ryan> Bingo.
[20:49] <Arx Sylvanran> Or the bailiff will see to you.
[20:49] * @spiritflame is the bailiff.
[20:49] * Thrash adjusts his eyepatch
[20:49] <Raihosha> We're loose here, not barbarians?
[20:50] <Arx Sylvanran> Judge Ryan...
[20:50] <Judge Ryan> Yes?
[20:50] <Arx Sylvanran> since I have been so free with stating what I'd like to learn, what would you like to learn?
[20:50] <Judge Ryan> Oh, that's a good question.
[20:50] <Arx Sylvanran> It might be good to let Counsel know what information would help us make our decision.
[20:51] <Arx Sylvanran> (( should have done this at the start i realize ))
[20:51] <Judge Ryan> Personally I'd like to know more about his origin and his upbringing but I don't think the witness would be so forthcoming.
[20:51] <Judge Ryan> It would put into context a few things.
[20:51] <Arx Sylvanran> Well the burden is on him to be forthcoming.
[20:51] <Arx Sylvanran> He wants to be classified.
[20:53] <Raihosha> That may be pertinent, Judge Ryan, I AM willing to ask that to further explain his current state... but his own forthcomingness will be his.
[20:53] <Judge Ryan> Do what you can but more disclosure with this would benefit the court.
[20:55] * Raihosha nods.
[20:55] <Eitak_Razal> What is keeping him anyways...
[20:56] <Raihosha> It would seem that on the general question this court seems inclined to accept that AN AI could have standing?
[20:57] <Arx Sylvanran> Well, only, in my view, if it were wholly free and unrestricted.
[20:57] <Raihosha> ANd you would prefer I spend my time showing that Mr. Suthers specifically falls into a sufficiently high category?
[20:57] *** Anthony Suthers [Anthony@WhateverIsNecessary.gov] has joined #suburbansenshi2
[20:57] <@spiritflame> irasshai Anthony Suthers
[20:57] <Arx Sylvanran> Anything less is a premade apparatus that can only reach so far before always falling back to a predefined goal.
[20:58] * Anthony Suthers enters the building, silently.
[20:58] <Arx Sylvanran> High functionality would not be enough for me. Free functionality would be.
[20:58] <Klavier> Ah, Herr Suthers.
[20:58] <Klavier> We have been expecting you for quite some time, I trust that you are all right?
[20:58] <Raihosha> I sense my client has made his entry.
[20:59] <Anthony Suthers> There was a major issue of safety in my place of employment. I am not at liberty to discuss details.\
[20:59] * Thrash listens
[20:59] * Anthony Suthers straightens up, and sits in his proper place.
[20:59] <Klavier> Do you require time to collect yourself before we restart?
[20:59] <Anthony Suthers> Perhaps a few moments, yes.
[20:59] * Anthony Suthers sits down.
[21:00] * Eitak_Razal takes her seat... wherever the people who come to watch sit, makeing sure to sit as close to the procoutor's bench as possible.
[21:01] * Suu waves to Eitak
[21:01] * Arx Sylvanran lets Judge Ryan start the session
[21:01] * Eitak_Razal waves back
[21:02] <Judge Ryan> !
[21:03] * Judge Ryan takes out his mythological magical hammer that he will officially introduce next month... and SLAMS IT DOWN, SHATTERING WHAT IT HITS
[21:03] <Judge Ryan> Court... is in session.
[21:03] * the bench crumbles
[21:03] <Arx Sylvanran> ::facepalm
[21:03] * @spiritflame repairs it
[21:03] * HazMat Prinnies scurry in and sweep up the Judge's bench.
[21:04] *** HazMat Prinnies has left #suburbansenshi2 (More Cleaning...)
[21:04] <Judge Ryan> Err... sorry.
[21:04] <Judge Ryan> Anyway, court's in session.
[21:04] <Klavier> ...
[21:04] <Judge Ryan> Let's continue where we left off last.
[21:05] <Raihosha> So, Mr. Klavier you were about to have re-direct?
[21:05] * Anthony Suthers nods.
[21:05] <Klavier> All right. Herr Suthers, I was hoping we could take some time tonight to discuss your personal values as they relate to crime and punishment.
[21:06] <Anthony Suthers> If that is the will of the court, then I will consent to it.
[21:06] <Klavier> Your responses to the hypothetical situation I put forward would seem blunt to a normal human being.
[21:06] <Klavier> So, pray tell, please tell the court, whether these feelings about crime and punishment are innate, or this is an example of your learned behavior?
[21:07] * Anthony Suthers thinks.
[21:08] <Anthony Suthers> How would I even know that?
[21:08] * Anthony Suthers thinks.
[21:09] <Klavier> shall I rephrase that question for you, Herr Suthers?
[21:09] <Anthony Suthers> My instruction was no different than... YES, I think that would be helpful.
[21:09] <Klavier> Instruction...
[21:10] <Raihosha> I'm not sure it is a question my client CAN answer in its current form.
[21:10] <Judge Ryan> Be more specific.
[21:11] <Klavier> Do you possess "gut feelings," Herr Suthers?
[21:12] <Anthony Suthers> You mean... reflexive reactions? Like a human's twitch?
[21:12] <Anthony Suthers> I do not understand.
[21:12] <Klavier> More like....
[21:12] <Judge Ryan> I think it would help if you clarified what you meant, Klavier.
[21:12] <Judge Ryan> Do you mean the classical sense?
[21:12] <Judge Ryan> By that I mean, a visceral emotional reaction to something, and often one of uneasiness.
[21:13] <Klavier> What I'm trying to express is, do you have an innate sense of what is right and just?
[21:14] <Raihosha> I'm a bit concerned we're going beyond the bounds of re-direct here, Counselor...
[21:15] <Klavier> hmm.
[21:15] <Anthony Suthers> I'm confused. Is the sense of virtue of every adult human being also based upon the values present in their upbringing?
[21:15] <Klavier> You...mentioned something about being "instructed" just now, Herr Suthers.
[21:15] <Anthony Suthers> Culture, by definition, is not innate.
[21:15] <Klavier> What sort of "instruction" did you receive?
[21:16] <Anthony Suthers> Of course. I fulfilled all societal obligations on learning the rules of proper behavior for a citizen, as well as a governmental operative.
[21:16] <Klavier> Did you go to school?
[21:17] <Anthony Suthers> I learned all of what was required to be productive, and not to jeapordize society or the emotional or mental well-being of citizens.
[21:17] * Anthony Suthers smiles proudly.
[21:19] <Klavier> Who was your teacher?
[21:19] * Arx Sylvanran will let judge ryan decide about the scope being outwsid eof redirect, since we did seem to expand the scope of enquiry a bit.
[21:19] <Anthony Suthers> There was no person with that designation.
[21:19] * Judge Ryan notes that Arx is probably rocking out on her iPhone
[21:20] * Arx Sylvanran did all the talking last time, you do it. *is also staring daggers at Paisley Pythia Peinforte up in the gallery*
[21:20] <Paisley Pythia Peinforte> *smugface*
[21:20] <Judge Ryan> Just imagine the cultural equivalent of that word from where you're from.
[21:21] <Raihosha> I will note, for the Counselor, that there are a number of cultures that practice tachydidacty.
[21:21] <Eitak_Razal> What the tell is tachydidarcty?
[21:21] * Thrash looks at Paisley..then Arx..then Paisley
[21:22] <Judge Ryan> Method of instruction.
[21:22] <Judge Ryan> Short or rapid.
[21:22] <Raihosha> Speed Learning, usually using uploaded skill memories.
[21:22] <Arx Sylvanran> Tachydidaxy.
[21:22] <Anthony Suthers> After I was issued my possessions, there was a... certified representative that tested me, and he believed I was compatible and compliant to be allowed the citizenship in Society, under the Law.
[21:22] * Anthony Suthers falls silent.
[21:23] * Klavier nods
[21:23] <Klavier> Would you say that he "rubbed off" on you, so to speak?
[21:24] <Anthony Suthers> I fail to understand the meaning of that euphemism.
[21:25] <Judge Ryan> He means
[21:25] <Judge Ryan> Someone having an effect on you by close association.
[21:25] <Judge Ryan> Picking up someone's habits. Characteristics. Etc.
[21:26] <Anthony Suthers> ...I do not believe I am the same as my teacher.
[21:26] <Anthony Suthers> Did I use "teacher" correctly?
[21:26] <Arx Sylvanran> What was your teacher?
[21:27] <Anthony Suthers> Similar to me?
[21:27] <Arx Sylvanran> In what sense?
[21:27] <Anthony Suthers> The ways of my profession were classified, and standard civilians never instructed us.
[21:27] * Arx Sylvanran does not follow
[21:27] <Anthony Suthers> I shall elaborate.
[21:28] <Judge Ryan> That begs to question, real fast. Were there class levels in your society?
[21:28] <Anthony Suthers> This hearing is to determine my nature. Until such time as my nature is decided, I cannot define the nature of my teacher.
[21:28] <Anthony Suthers> Thus, my teacher was similar in origins to me.
[21:28] <Arx Sylvanran> I see.
[21:29] <Arx Sylvanran> What are the origins of your teacher?
[21:29] <Raihosha> I...
[21:30] * Eitak_Razal smiles. The less tony talks, the less favorable it looks to like it's being to him
[21:30] <Anthony Suthers> I pardon the honoble arbiters, but which of your two questions shall I answer first?
[21:30] * Paisley Pythia Peinforte disagrees, you can never tell what side that shifty Arx is on.
[21:30] <Arx Sylvanran> Ryan, than myself.
[21:31] <Judge Ryan> Welp, I was just about to say 'her's first' but hell. Go with mine first.
[21:31] * Thrash looks at the hankerchielf he got last night as he listens
[21:31] <Anthony Suthers> As for social stratification in my society.
[21:32] <Anthony Suthers> Not all were considered fit to hold all positions. This policy was made law in order to assure stability. Each was to contribute in their own way, and responsibility was gradiated to the most experienced and skillful.
[21:33] <Anthony Suthers> However....
[21:33] <Anthony Suthers> Nevermind, I have answered that question.
[21:33] <Anthony Suthers> AS to the other one...
[21:35] <Anthony Suthers> I am currently not fully certain of the "origins" of my teacher. Investigating superiors when unmeritied does not better society, and is thus forbidden.
[21:36] <Anthony Suthers> Thus, I am still uncertain. However, his dedication to make certain I could better society was unwavering, and he made me proficient at my skillset.
[21:37] <Arx Sylvanran> How were you instructed?
[21:37] <Arx Sylvanran> By how I mean... how were the lessons delivered to you?
[21:38] <Anthony Suthers> Assimilation and... on occaision, accomodation, as well as Physically after I received my possesssions.
[21:38] <Arx Sylvanran> ...
[21:39] <Arx Sylvanran> I do not understand "assimilation", "accomodation" and "physically".
[21:39] <Arx Sylvanran> Can you please clarify?
[21:40] * Anthony Suthers has an idea. "Were you asking if the majority of the lessons were learned electronically?"
[21:40] <Anthony Suthers> Perhaps I mis-spoke?
[21:41] <Arx Sylvanran> No, I would like to know the definitions of those terms.
[21:41] <Arx Sylvanran> They seem to have precise meanings to you.
[21:41] <Arx Sylvanran> to understand you, I must understand the terms that define you.
[21:41] <Anthony Suthers> Very well. In terms of learning and development, if a neonate experiences a new subject...
[21:42] <Anthony Suthers> Assimilation refers to interpreting that in terms of what it already knows.
[21:42] <Arx Sylvanran> Please define new terms of art as they arise ^^;
[21:42] <Arx Sylvanran> "neonate?"
[21:42] <Anthony Suthers> Accomodation means to learn a new way to make sense of that thing.
[21:42] <Paisley Pythia Peinforte> now you know what it's like when one of you time lords gibbers all the time
[21:42] <Anthony Suthers> Yes. Such as a very young human child?
[21:42] <Arx Sylvanran> shut up, witch
[21:42] <Anthony Suthers> A... baby? An infant?
[21:42] <Eitak_Razal> Even I knew what that word ment!
[21:43] <Thrash> hm...
[21:43] <Arx Sylvanran> Go on...
[21:43] <Anthony Suthers> Is something wrong?
[21:44] <Arx Sylvanran> No. Please continue, I'm following.
[21:44] <Anthony Suthers> After the material was commited to memory, we were tested on it, and I was not found faulty.
[21:46] <Arx Sylvanran> Thank you.
[21:46] <Eitak_Razal> Faulty really does make him sound like a machine
[21:46] <Arx Sylvanran> tonight's trial will end at 22:00, and tomorrow will be the final day. If we can finish with this witness I would like to deal with any others tomorrow
[21:46] <Anthony Suthers> Much of the directives were duplicated from other students' lessons, but increased specialization and further instructions, both and later physical, was bestowed upon those chosen for special tasks upon which carried great import for our society.
[21:47] <Anthony Suthers> Thus, after a certain period, I had numerous instructors.
[21:48] <Anthony Suthers> Is this sufficient information?
[21:48] <Arx Sylvanran> These "directives"...
[21:48] <Raihosha> I'm concerned that I have some defense direct questions for Mr. Suthers, your honor?
[21:48] <Arx Sylvanran> Well, if Mr. Klavier has no objection, we can move on to those?
[21:48] <Arx Sylvanran> And then wrap them up tomorrow?
[21:49] <Klavier> I have no objections.
[21:49] <Raihosha> That should be okay.
[21:49] <Arx Sylvanran> Proceed with your direct, Counsel.
[21:49] <Raihosha> Thank you your honor.
[21:51] <Raihosha> Mr. Suthers, you've described your background in bits and pieces to the court... but I gather most of us here would have found your world to be very oppressive?
[21:51] <Anthony Suthers> It is my opinion that a great many gathered here would have difficulty adapting, yes.
[21:52] <Anthony Suthers> Many of the luxuries enjoyed here are not allowable there.
[21:52] <Raihosha> And that the government of your world had a very long time to become very good at ensuring a stable society?
[21:53] <Anthony Suthers> >.>
[21:53] <Anthony Suthers> Many places are stable and content! But sadly, while the Law itself is perfect, some of its purveyors are not.
[21:53] * Anthony Suthers looks deeply saddened.
[21:54] <Anthony Suthers> The government of my world... and the surrounding ones...
[21:54] <Anthony Suthers> Was praised by all beings at one time.
[21:55] <Anthony Suthers> But stability can be damaged when it is not treasured as is should be, and threats emerge more often that could destroy all that was sacrificed for.
[21:56] <Anthony Suthers> Thus, I was created as part of a solution.
[21:56] <Raihosha> I understand that view.
[21:57] <Anthony Suthers> I protect that which must be held sacrosanct... in spite...
[21:57] <Anthony Suthers> In spite of my flaws.
[21:57] <Raihosha> I'm going to ask a delicate question of you Mr. Suthers...
[21:57] * Anthony Suthers nods.
[21:58] <Raihosha> You were "created" to solve a problem. How were you to perform your task?
[21:58] <Anthony Suthers> By solving minor problems before they became severe ones.
[21:59] <Arx Sylvanran> And how did you "solve" these problems?
[21:59] <Anthony Suthers> In whatever means was necessary, and expedient.
[22:00] <Anthony Suthers> Some were more difficult than others, and I still pursue a grave threat.
[22:00] <Arx Sylvanran> I sense... superficial answers from the defendant.
[22:00] <Anthony Suthers> Very well.
[22:00] <Klavier>
[22:00] <Arx Sylvanran> Give me a concrete example of a problem, and your solution to it.
[22:00] <Arx Sylvanran> Geh
[22:00] <Arx Sylvanran> What is the objection?
[22:01] <Klavier> I believe we have been shown an example of how Herr Suthers has "solved" a problem not too long ago.
[22:01] <Klavier> The attack on Frau Vanesa.
[22:01] * Klavier pounds on the wall behind him
[22:02] <Raihosha>
[22:02] * Anthony Suthers appears extremely incensed.
[22:02] <Arx Sylvanran> Hmm?
[22:02] <Arx Sylvanran> Yes, Counsel?
[22:03] <Raihosha> I believe that this whole trial is to establish standing of Mr. Suthers in order to determine the situation of the altercation between Mr. Suthers and Ms. Ying?
[22:04] <Raihosha> I find it unusual to bring that case forward before we have established this?
[22:04] <Arx Sylvanran> Do the events of that incident shed any light onto the nature of Mr. Suthers?
[22:05] <Anthony Suthers> Her assertion is also false.
[22:05] <Arx Sylvanran> We could restrict our inquiry only to those facts.
[22:05] <Klavier> I believe they are.
[22:05] * Raihosha thinks.
[22:05] <Arx Sylvanran> Aftrer all, it will be the same bench sitting in that trial.
[22:06] <Arx Sylvanran> If it gets that far. We will not be charging Mr. Suthers?
[22:06] <Arx Sylvanran> After all he would be the Plaintiff.
[22:06] <Raihosha> Do we have the recording from that event?
[22:06] <Arx Sylvanran> In any even we have to deal with this tomorrow.
[22:06] * Anthony Suthers looks extremely disappointed.
[22:07] <Anthony Suthers> May I speak?
[22:07] <Arx Sylvanran> Yes.
[22:07] * Anthony Suthers stands.
[22:07] <Anthony Suthers> Honorable officiates of the tribunal...
[22:07] <Anthony Suthers> I have seen many things since I came here.
[22:08] <Anthony Suthers> MANY things, some of which have been rather straining for me.
[22:08] <Anthony Suthers> However... I would dearly hope to remind all attended of something.
[22:08] <Anthony Suthers> Are those who strive to uphold the ideas of their societies not considered "good?"
[22:09] <Anthony Suthers> I sense great hostility as the way I serve my State, and Law, in my prior position was touched upon.
[22:09] <Arx Sylvanran> It depends. the Borg do so and are classes as a menace.
[22:09] <Arx Sylvanran> ^classed
[22:09] <Arx Sylvanran> How you served will not prejudice your claim.
[22:10] <Arx Sylvanran> If you had no way of not serving, might.
[22:10] <Anthony Suthers> I would remind everyone here, that almost every modern nation tasks some specially cleared citizens to deal with threats to it's security. Many in those states are classified as heroes, and go risk their lives.
[22:10] <Anthony Suthers> ...To reject the law is unthinkable.
[22:10] <Anthony Suthers> ...However.
[22:10] <Arx Sylvanran> And I have made the case that even those heroes can still disobey orders.
[22:10] <Anthony Suthers> And such is one of my pleas.
[22:10] <Arx Sylvanran> Can you?
[22:11] <Anthony Suthers> To reject Law is unthinkable.
[22:11] <Anthony Suthers> May I finish?
[22:11] * Eitak_Razal notes there are cases where the people who reject the orders are the heros, not the ones giving them
[22:11] * Arx Sylvanran Yes.
[22:11] <Arx Sylvanran> Yes
[22:11] <Anthony Suthers> Mr. Raihosha. You have been very upright to me, and I thank you.
[22:12] <Raihosha> And I thank you for the opportunity to defend you.
[22:12] <Anthony Suthers> But if you were to lose me amid the others who share my duty upon my homeworld... you would likely not find another being such as I.
[22:12] <Anthony Suthers> ...I am unique.
[22:12] <Anthony Suthers> I have goals, and dreams.
[22:13] * Eitak_Razal slams her hand down, wanting to raise an objection if she could
[22:13] <Anthony Suthers> I am MORE than my obligation, though I do my duty enthusiastically and willingly.
[22:13] * the gallery murmurs in surprise
[22:13] * Arx Sylvanran slams doen the gavel for order, and lets the defendant speak
[22:13] * Thrash listens
[22:13] <Anthony Suthers> You would find NO other operatives who would even CONCEIVE of desiring children!
[22:13] <Anthony Suthers> But I did.
[22:14] * Judge Ryan focuses his full attention on Anthony
[22:14] <Anthony Suthers> Once an operative's true nature is known, his usefulness to the State diminishes drastically. To ME, this mattered.
[22:15] <Anthony Suthers> One might find many people in this room who had a standard of behavior they would not break even under extreme duress, or even at the cost of their lives.
[22:15] <Anthony Suthers> Such codes are considered virtuous, and not deviant!
[22:15] <Anthony Suthers> I serve the Law.
[22:16] <Arx Sylvanran> Could you choose not to.
[22:16] <Anthony Suthers> If this court says I am property, then I will not question it's Law.
[22:16] <Arx Sylvanran> Could you choose not to serve the Law.
[22:16] <Anthony Suthers> To.......................To reject the Law is Unthinkable.
[22:16] <Arx Sylvanran> Regardless if it's unthinkable to you
[22:16] <Arx Sylvanran> COULD you. Are you ABLE to.
[22:17] <Anthony Suthers> My sons can.
[22:17] <Arx Sylvanran> this is what I want to know.
[22:17] <Arx Sylvanran> But can _you_.
[22:17] <Anthony Suthers> My sons..
[22:17] <Anthony Suthers> If I cannot be found sentient... my sons are more than I could ever be.
[22:17] <Anthony Suthers> Please...
[22:18] <Anthony Suthers> I do not ask for mercy or leniency. The law is the Law.
[22:18] <Raihosha> Your Honor, I'm not sure if Mr. Suthers can answer the question as currently stated.
[22:18] <Anthony Suthers> But I can change.
[22:18] <Anthony Suthers> They can too!
[22:18] <Arx Sylvanran> You can change?
[22:18] <Anthony Suthers> I'm MORE than my source.
[22:18] * Arx Sylvanran leans forward, this is important
[22:18] <Arx Sylvanran> Explain!
[22:18] <Anthony Suthers> Are there certain tendencies of human behavior and physiology that are fixed?
[22:19] <Anthony Suthers> I put forth this question.
[22:19] <Arx Sylvanran> Very very few. The gag reflex. the blink reflex...
[22:19] <Anthony Suthers> Might I have a reflex as well?
[22:19] <Raihosha> There are, but they CAN be overcome.
[22:19] <Arx Sylvanran> Yes, but can you overcome it.
[22:19] <Anthony Suthers> I stand alone.
[22:20] <Anthony Suthers> I accept that I might never return home.
[22:20] <Raihosha> Usually with lots of time and effort...
[22:20] <Anthony Suthers> For the chance to aid this world, and to have my children survive, I accept that as my price.
[22:20] <Anthony Suthers> I REALIZE that because I am different than my brethren, I can aid this world even more.
[22:20] <Anthony Suthers> Is that not a huge setp?
[22:20] <Anthony Suthers> ^step
[22:21] <Anthony Suthers> I very much doubt that you would find another operative to insist on being addressed by a name.
[22:21] <Arx Sylvanran> Are you.. breaking the law by having childrne?
[22:21] <Arx Sylvanran> ^children
[22:21] * Eitak_Razal notes he still hasn't awnsered the question if he can reject the law..
[22:22] * Anthony Suthers hangs his head at the ground like a huge weight has been placed upon him.
[22:22] * Arx Sylvanran has just posed it again.
[22:22] <Anthony Suthers> I.... I....
[22:22] <Anthony Suthers> If I eliminated my target, and was returned home this very moment.
[22:22] * crowd hushes
[22:22] * Klavier smiles.
[22:22] <Klavier> Who is your target, Herr Suthers?
[22:23] <Anthony Suthers> I would NEVER volunteer to my superiors that I had children.
[22:23] <Arx Sylvanran> Is it a crime to withhold information?
[22:23] <Anthony Suthers> "volunteer."
[22:23] * Arx Sylvanran wants a DIRECT answer.
[22:23] <Arx Sylvanran> If you did not tell them, and they found you out.
[22:24] <Arx Sylvanran> Would you be guilty of breaking the law.
[22:24] <Anthony Suthers> Then I would take comfort in my deeds that bettered society, and not ask for leniency.
[22:24] <Anthony Suthers> May I ask your HOnor a question?
[22:24] <Arx Sylvanran> So by having your children, you have in fact, broken their law?
[22:24] <Arx Sylvanran> My question comes first.
[22:24] <Anthony Suthers> I must answer that as follows, Madam.
[22:25] * Eitak_Razal recoils at this, wondering if they've lost
[22:25] <Arx Sylvanran> yours can follow.
[22:25] <Anthony Suthers> I'm afraid it cannot. This information is essential.
[22:25] <Paisley Pythia Peinforte>
[22:25] <Paisley Pythia Peinforte> THE JUDGE IS DOING COUNSEL'S WORK
[22:25] * Anthony Suthers halts in obedience.
[22:25] * Arx Sylvanran recoils
[22:25] * Paisley Pythia Peinforte points to judge Ryan
[22:26] <Paisley Pythia Peinforte> Well?
[22:26] <Judge Ryan> AGREED
[22:26] <Thrash> hm...
[22:26] <Raihosha> I would point out to the gallery that this is much the same line of questioning I was attempting to establish.
[22:26] <Judge Ryan> IN FACT
[22:27] <Judge Ryan> I AM ADJOURNING THIS FOR THE NIGHT.
[22:27] * LOVELYgirl shifts around in her seat
[22:27] * Anthony Suthers is silent, and nods.
[22:27] <Arx Sylvanran> We'll pick this up again tomorrow at 20:00 for the final day.
[22:27] <Raihosha> I believe tomorrow we should start with Mr. Suthers question to the bench.
[22:27] <Eitak_Razal> Then ask it yourself Rai!~
[22:28] * Arx Sylvanran brings down her gavel and adjourns the court
[22:28] * Anthony Suthers sits down, obediently.
[22:28] * Judge Ryan brings down his hammer, too!
[22:28] * the bench f[BLEEP]king dies.
[22:28] <Judge Ryan> ...
[22:28] * Paisley Pythia Peinforte smirks at Arx
[22:28] <Judge Ryan> My mistake.
[22:28] *** Arx Sylvanran [arx_s@justitia.panopticon.gallifrey.sen] has quit IRC (To the innocent, I am an angel; to the guilty, Vengeance.)
[22:29] * Eitak_Razal looks at Paisley. "I'm glad you chimed in when you did"
[22:29] <Paisley Pythia Peinforte> Hmph.
[22:29] <Paisley Pythia Peinforte> That one...
[22:29] * Thrash frowns a bit..and then sniffs the hankerchef again..
[22:29] <Paisley Pythia Peinforte> All her talk of "justice.
[22:29] <Raihosha> It doesn't change our case Eitak.
[22:29] <Thrash> ...I swear I recongize this scent...
[22:29] *** Paisley Pythia Peinforte [paisely_p@seven.torchwood.or.jp] has left #suburbansenshi2 (She's just trying to save her soul.)
[22:30] <Anthony Suthers> Counsel?
[22:30] <Eitak_Razal> It leaves one to wonder if the questions asked just now are actully admissable
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[22:30] <Raihosha> Mr. Suthers, I think your statement helped your case immensly.
[22:30] * Eitak_Razal leaps out of the Gallery an onto the floor below
[22:30] * LOVELYgirl runs down to the danger room for a session
[22:30] <Klavier> ...
[22:30] * LOVELYgirl is away 
[22:31] <Anthony Suthers> It is unfortunate that I was disallowed to finish.
[22:31] <Klavier> Suu. Are you here?
[22:31] <Anthony Suthers> Mister Raihosha, do you believe the Judge is objective?
[22:31] <Raihosha> You will be able to finish tomorrow.
[22:32] <Klavier> I'd like to talk to you a bit before we go...
[22:32] <Suu> ...All right.
[22:32] <Raihosha> I believe she may have pushed the boundaries of procedure, Mr. Suthers...
[22:33] <Raihosha> But I believe her objectivity is clear.
[22:33] <Klavier> Herr Raihosha.
[22:33] <Raihosha> Mr. Klavier?
[22:34] <Anthony Suthers> But if the Judge is not subjective...
[22:34] <Anthony Suthers> No. No.
[22:34] <Eitak_Razal> It's possible she pushed them too far, which means the questions can be thrown out Rai.
[22:34] <Anthony Suthers> Of course it is valid.
[22:34] * Judge Ryan is now known as Ryan
[22:34] <Anthony Suthers> Madam Eitak.... should I be found sapient, I will not forget the things you say today.
[22:34] <Raihosha> That is for the bench to decide, Eitak.
[22:34] * @Ryan is plain old Ryan again... with a magical mythical hammer that he'll officially introduce next month
[22:35] <Klavier> This was quite a night.
[22:35] <Eitak_Razal> Indeed. It is for Ryan and Maira to decide if Arx went to far.
[22:35] <Eitak_Razal> Also. Tony. Let me remind you, I came planning on being a witness for the proscution.
[22:35] <Klavier> You are quite a fascinating...creation, Herr Suthers.
[22:36] <Anthony Suthers> I am a but a servant of Law, as all things should be, sir.
[22:36] <Raihosha> It was. I could have hoped we could have had an extra hour for questions...
[22:36] * Anthony Suthers bows respectfully, as though practiced.
[22:37] * Eitak_Razal mutters a silent statment of releif they didn't get that hour.
[22:40] <Suu> ...
[22:40] <Eitak_Razal> Besides
[22:41] <Eitak_Razal> We still have one day of trail left. None of the cards I have have even been played.
[22:41] <Raihosha> Besides?
[22:42] <Raihosha> You shouldn't say things like that, Eitak.
[22:43] <Raihosha> This is entirely about whether Mr. Suthers has standing.
[22:43] <Raihosha> Not his actions. Not his personality.
[22:43] <Eitak_Razal> ......
[22:44] <Eitak_Razal> Those detrimine the former
[22:44] <Raihosha> Not really.
[22:44] <Anthony Suthers> Why is that?
[22:44] <Anthony Suthers> I don't think they do either.
[22:45] <Eitak_Razal> If your actions are follwing a program too closely, if your personality is set in stone too much, then he'd have no reaoson to be considered alive
[22:45] <Anthony Suthers> Are you invoking the custom that criminals found guilty of felonies lose some of their rights?
[22:45] <Raihosha> In many ways, this is a competency hearing. Only somewhat backwards,
[22:46] <Anthony Suthers> Your Majesty, do you have dreams for the future?
[22:46] <Raihosha> I think it has been seen... well that is the court case.
[22:46] * Eitak_Razal recoils slightly. ".... what brings up that question all of a sudden"
[22:48] <Anthony Suthers> If they involve oh... having children, finding a mate, or ensuring prosperity for those you care about, then you are following a program pretty closely.
[22:48] <Eitak_Razal> ......
[22:49] <Eitak_Razal> Alot of my dreams were shattered long ago Tony.
[22:49] <Eitak_Razal> Let's just leave it at that
[22:49] <Anthony Suthers> Oh?
[22:49] <Anthony Suthers> Do you care about yoru subjects?
[22:49] <Anthony Suthers> Are you attached to them?
[22:49] *** Suu [FourLeafClover@clampgakuen.ac.jp] has left #suburbansenshi2 (Flying towards the future)
[22:49] *** Klavier [k_gavin@thegavinners.com] has left #suburbansenshi2 (Achtung, baby! Today we play it my way!)
[22:49] <Eitak_Razal> ... As close as one can be to people you've never met
[22:49] <Anthony Suthers> I find it very difficult to believe that a person with your exüberance and zeal is a jaded shell that lost what they treasured.
[22:50] <Anthony Suthers> My point is this.
[22:50] <Eitak_Razal> Then you don't know me as well as you think.
[22:50] <Anthony Suthers> Every human has inborn tendencies.
[22:50] <Anthony Suthers> Yes, I suppose I don't know you.
[22:50] <Anthony Suthers> I'm starting to experience a profound dislike for you.
[22:50] <Anthony Suthers> But perhaps I do not have all the facts.
[22:51] <Anthony Suthers> Why are you determined that I be found non-sapient?
[22:51] * Eitak_Razal bites her lip. "I refuse to awnser that"
[22:51] <Anthony Suthers> Counsel, please note that she did not answer... I would hate that a hostile witness be called.
[22:52] <Eitak_Razal> No I refuse to awnser you because I know you'd likely find some way to acusse me of a crime.
[22:52] <Anthony Suthers> Hmm?
[22:52] <Raihosha> We may have no choice in that, Mr. Suthers, but we have rules for hostile witnesses.
[22:52] <Anthony Suthers> No. I was hoping your reasons for wanting me condemned were virtuous.
[22:52] <Anthony Suthers> They might well be.
[22:53] <Eitak_Razal> They are in my mind.
[22:53] <Eitak_Razal> In yours, I doubt it very much
[22:53] * Anthony Suthers turns to Raihosha and smiles. "Of course the Legal system has rules to deal with such things. Laws are Laws."
[22:54] <Eitak_Razal> Tony. Let me state this clearly, no law is perfect
[22:54] <Anthony Suthers> That is false.
[22:54] <Anthony Suthers> The system for executing them is imperfect.
[22:55] <Eitak_Razal>





[22:56] <Raihosha> Executing laws can be done imperfectly, true. But have you ever heard of Gödel's Incompleteness theorem?
[22:56] <Eitak_Razal> Tony, who do you think knows more about this. Someone who makes laws for a living, or someone who blindly follows them
[22:57] * @Ryan changes topic to `THE TRIAL CONTINUES - 20:00/7:00 PM Central`
[22:57] * Anthony Suthers narrows his eyes accusingly.
[22:57] <Anthony Suthers> YOU don't do that.
[22:57] <Anthony Suthers> You do not relish your position. I have SEEN you attempt to escape your duties.
[22:57] <Anthony Suthers> And this behavior is... troubling.
[22:58] * Eitak_Razal reaches in her sleeve and pulls out a stack of papers, many of them bearing her hand writeing
[22:58] <Eitak_Razal> This is paperwork that came across my desk today alone.
[22:58] <Eitak_Razal> I've finished it all Tony
[22:58] <Anthony Suthers> I suppose this was NOT accomplished during your numerous sessions on the Video game console?
[22:58] * LOVELYgirl is back
[22:58] <Eitak_Razal> I still have free time..
[22:59] <Eitak_Razal> I don't spend all day doing work. That would be stupid
[22:59] <Eitak_Razal> No one does that.
[22:59] * LOVELYgirl comes back in and crashes on a couch
[22:59] <Eitak_Razal> "
[22:59] <Anthony Suthers> ......if you say so.
[22:59] <Eitak_Razal> "All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy"
[22:59] * Anthony Suthers silently contemplates changing his name to Jack.
[22:59] <Raihosha> Or the old slogan...
[23:00] <Anthony Suthers> Eitak... you are a legal and acting Queen.
[23:00] <Raihosha> "Eight hours for work, eight hours rest and eight hours for all the rest"
[23:00] <Anthony Suthers> And thus, I obeyed you as soveriegn when upon your world.
[23:00] <Eitak_Razal> I've never actully heard that Rai. But yes.
[23:01] <Anthony Suthers> However... history would suggest...
[23:01] <Anthony Suthers> nevermind.
[23:01] <LOVELYgirl> Heh. Eiry would lose her business if she did that...
[23:01] <Anthony Suthers> My contention is that you are... well...
[23:01] <Anthony Suthers> How old are you?
[23:01] <Eitak_Razal> ..... I will turn 20 on friday.
[23:01] <Raihosha> Before your time Eitak. There was a long struggle for the eight hour workday, 40 hour week.
[23:02] <Eitak_Razal> People wanted to work longer?
[23:02] <Anthony Suthers> I shall not call you for lack of experience, but consider this.
[23:02] <Raihosha> NO bosses wanted their employees to have to work longer.
[23:02] <Eitak_Razal> THAT makes more sense...
[23:02] <LOVELYgirl> Most of the world works long, grueling hours, and goes home to cook, clean, built, care for the kids.
[23:03] <Anthony Suthers> Do you SERIOUSLY think that you have as good a grasp of the laws that finally make it to your desk as the people who finalize and struggle to see that it makes it to you in a timely manner?
[23:03] <LOVELYgirl> And in the past, they worked even harder for so much less. I went and saw, a lot of it was sad D:
[23:03] * Eitak_Razal slams her hand down. "Yes I do"
[23:03] <Raihosha> When I got here, plenty of people had to work 12 hour days 6 days a week just to make ends meet.
[23:03] * Eitak_Razal nods in agreement with Miara
[23:03] <Anthony Suthers> You are a queen and Monarch, in my eyes, you are the most important being on Neggerra. That does NOT make you the smartest one.
[23:04] <Eitak_Razal> There is a diffrence between "Smart" and "Wise" tony
[23:04] <Anthony Suthers> However, as monarch, and the representative of Law, I shall still serve you if it is necessary.
[23:05] <Anthony Suthers> I also do not expect many 20 year olds to be the wisest members of a planet, unless the average age there is 15.
[23:06] <Anthony Suthers> ...No matter how unusual in prowess that 20 year old may be.
[23:07] <Eitak_Razal> Some s[BLEEP]t happend on my planet. I was the one that fixed it. And I got the job as a result.
[23:07] <Eitak_Razal> I didn't choose this job, the people choose me.
[23:07] <Anthony Suthers> Such news fills me with joy!
[23:07] <Eitak_Razal> They tried to rope Nivek into it too but he refused it.
[23:08] * LOVELYgirl rubs an elbow,
[23:09] <Raihosha> I'm sure I could have Aescapulus give you a hand at smoothing out the laws, if you want Eitak.
[23:09] <Eitak_Razal> That would be helpful Rai.
[23:09] <LOVELYgirl> Hmm..maybe I'll bring Zan up tomorrow, Rai. MGT doesn't seem to want to leave the cubs for his sessions.
[23:10] <Raihosha> Sure. Give me a copy of the laws and He'll find all the conflicts and loopholes he can.
[23:11] <Anthony Suthers> ...I will also happily assist you in emeliorating your Laws, your Majesty.
[23:11] <Raihosha> Well Miara, I can't blame MGT for loving his sisters...
[23:11] <Eitak_Razal> You're not allowed
[23:11] * Anthony Suthers suddenly perks up.
[23:11] <LOVELYgirl> Me either.
[23:11] <Eitak_Razal> Simply because your views are far too diffrent then mine
[23:11] <LOVELYgirl> So I thought he might like that.
[23:12] * Eitak_Razal then turns back to Rai and nods. "I'l share what I can later"
[23:12] <Raihosha> Yumiko or one of the others can watch Zalan while he's up there if you want?
[23:12] <Anthony Suthers> As you wish. But know that should you wish for me OR MY SONS to assist you to make your laws better, then we shall assist without any hint of compensation.
[23:12] <Raihosha> Or maybe he'll just like watching the little ones himself.
[23:13] <Raihosha> Though they are getting a bit grabby now...
[23:13] <Anthony Suthers> When do you think such children can becoem productive members of society?
[23:14] <Raihosha> Mine or your Mr. Suthers?
[23:14] <Raihosha> ^yours
[23:14] <LOVELYgirl> He likes to play with them.
[23:15] <LOVELYgirl> I hope it's not as long tomorrow night >>
[23:16] <Eitak_Razal> .... I still haven't taken the stand....
[23:16] <Anthony Suthers> I was talking about yours.
[23:16] <Raihosha> That'll be up to Mr. Klavier, Eitak.
[23:18] <Raihosha> Hmm. It takes a while for their brains to reach full capability, as well as a lot of growing to do, Mr. Suthers.
[23:18] <Anthony Suthers> I was struck by the footage of your son holding them.
[23:19] <LOVELYgirl> Yeah, they have to go from 2 feet to 12!
[23:19] * Beauty_Queen drops down from above. "All this talk of laws is makeing me want to puke"
[23:19] <Raihosha> But I'd be likely to say that they could be full adults by age 12 or 13...
[23:20] <Raihosha> Although I'll follow the contemporary standard of 18.
[23:20] <LOVELYgirl> Yeah...MGT's going to have to wait a while once, isn't he?
[23:21] <LOVELYgirl> If they're capable younger, why wait?
[23:21] <Raihosha> Well, capable yes. Finished with school?
[23:22] <Beauty_Queen> Honestly, who cares about laws. Just let everyone live they way they want and butt out.
[23:22] <Hazel Ninegate> An admirable philosophy! ♫
[23:22] <Raihosha> Oh wait you mean the embarassing biological bits... I was answering Mr. Suthers on productive members of society.
[23:23] <LOVELYgirl> no, that was the first comment. The capable thing was for your thing about being 18
[23:23] <Hazel Ninegate> I want to live by... enforcing my will laws on others!
[23:23] <Hazel Ninegate> Will you let me do that? ♫
[23:23] <Anthony Suthers> Madame... it is... an interesting experience to see you again.
[23:23] * Hazel Ninegate flickers a bit
[23:24] <Anthony Suthers> Oh. Nevermind.
[23:24] <Hazel Ninegate> Nice to see you too, Tony~ ♫
[23:24] * Beauty_Queen throws her spear at Hazel
[23:24] <Hazel Ninegate> Oh, I'm wholly interactive ♡
[23:24] * Hazel Ninegate adjusts the light bee ot let the spear pass through her
[23:24] * Hazel Ninegate re-solidified her hard light hologram
[23:24] <Hazel Ninegate> ^fies
[23:25] <Anthony Suthers> This is fascinating. How are you doing this?
[23:25] <Raihosha> Well, Miara, at least with the first generation I want to make sure I've given them enough time to become stable adults.
[23:25] <Anthony Suthers> ...And how much energy does it require?
[23:25] <Hazel Ninegate> 22nd century Hard Light Technology.
[23:25] * Beauty_Queen picks up her spear and leans on it. "What part of "I hate being opressed" don't you get you moroic excuse for a villain"
[23:25] <Hazel Ninegate> With a bit of my own secret sauce~ ♫
[23:25] * Anthony Suthers looks at Hazel....
[23:26] * Anthony Suthers looks at Etna.
[23:26] <Anthony Suthers> I'm sorry she is slandering you.
[23:26] * Beauty_Queen leans over to the nearest person and points at Hazel "Really, I think she was dropped on her head a few too many times as a child. So sad..."
[23:26] <Anthony Suthers> Let go of me.
[23:26] * Anthony Suthers recoils from Etna.
[23:27] <Hazel Ninegate> Oh, no, it's okay! After all, sticks and stones may break my bones--- oh wait, I don't have any! ♡
[23:27] <Anthony Suthers> Etna, why don't you leave this hologram alone?
[23:27] <Anthony Suthers> Please try to be civil.
[23:28] <Beauty_Queen> You're not much smarter then she is.
[23:28] <Beauty_Queen> And you're actully standing infront of me, really here.
[23:28] <Anthony Suthers> Don't remind me.
[23:28] * Beauty_Queen notes this is your only hint to run or shut up.
[23:29] <LOVELYgirl> Well, I'm gonna go home. Night guys.
[23:29] <Anthony Suthers> Please... give my regards to your son.
[23:29] <Raihosha> Night Miara.
[23:29] <Raihosha> And I should head out as well.
[23:30] *** LOVELYgirl [amongimmortals@otherworld.net] has left #suburbansenshi2 (In a louder voice/with a greater love.)
[23:30] <Anthony Suthers> Raihosha.
[23:30] <Raihosha> And Mr. Suthers, I'd suggest a good nights sleep for you as well so you can get to court on time.
[23:30] <Anthony Suthers> Whatever happens tomorrow night...
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[23:30] <Raihosha> Yes Mr. Suthers?
[23:30] <Anthony Suthers> Wait a moment.
[23:31] <Anthony Suthers> I was late because there were reports of an intruder in my workplace. I waited as instructed until the all-clear....
[23:31] <Anthony Suthers> Because my son was there.
[23:31] <Raihosha> Ah.
[23:31] <Anthony Suthers> I do regret my tardiness.
[23:31] <Anthony Suthers> And... I want to tell you.
[23:32] <Raihosha> The court understands that it does happen.
[23:32] <Anthony Suthers> Your virtue to establishing Law, and yoru dedication to stopping Chaos is truly commendable.
[23:32] <Anthony Suthers> Were we to ever journey to my world, I would do my utmost to allow your reclassification as an asset to the State, and to Law itself.
[23:32] * Anthony Suthers beams with the kindness that accompanies the highest compliment.
[23:33] <Raihosha> I appreciate the compliment, Mr. Suthers, but worry that I am falible flesh all the same?
[23:33] <Eitak_Razal> No real person is 100% law abideing and orderly
[23:34] * Raihosha smiles in return, accepting the compliment but worrying he'd never live up to the honor.
[23:34] <Eitak_Razal> The more you strive to be, the less of a person you are
[23:34] <Anthony Suthers> Your composition makes no difference, Master Raihosha! You distinguish yourself with your attitude, not your ingredients!
[23:34] * Anthony Suthers smiles.
[23:34] <Anthony Suthers> So please, accept my thanks, and ignore their slander. I wish you a pleasant night.
[23:34] * Anthony Suthers offers his hand.
[23:35] <Raihosha> And that is why I fight for your standing Mr. Suthers. Because I consider the qualities of your mind, not what they're made of.
[23:35] * Raihosha gives Suthers's hand a firm grasp and shake.
[23:35] <Anthony Suthers> I hope to addrest that tomorrow night. A pleasant evening to you.
[23:36] <Raihosha> And to you Mr. Suthers.
[23:36] *** Raihosha [visitor@nacom.aegis.int] has left #suburbansenshi2 (as the universe wills.)
[23:37] * Anthony Suthers sits down and thinks, looking at Hazel's hologram.
[23:43] <Anthony Suthers> I should almost certainly be off. I need speak with the head of security.
[23:43] <Anthony Suthers> >.>
[23:43] * Anthony Suthers glances at Eitak Suspiciously.
[23:44] <Anthony Suthers> Well... I guess not... unless somebody has been noticably absent.
[23:44] * Anthony Suthers walks over to leave. "I can't wait to tell my son what happened tonight."
[23:45] <Anthony Suthers> Things go splendidly still!
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[23:45] <@spiritflame> irasshai TheGreyElf
[11:35] <Bixia Yuanjin> Scatter a handful of ashes.
[11:36] * Uniformed Man walks up to the door and rings the bell very nervously.
[11:36] * Bixia Yuanjin looks around
[11:36] * Bixia Yuanjin discovers she is the responsible adult!!
[11:36] * Bixia Yuanjin skips off her perch and hops along to the door, taking a peek through the windows to suss this guy out first
[11:37] * Uniformed Man keeps glancing around as though he was followed, and is carrying a newspaper.
[11:37] * Bixia Yuanjin opens the door a crack
[11:37] * Uniformed Man glances at the peephole and windows, as though he expects something to jump out and grab him.
[11:37] <Uniformed Man> Eep
[11:37] <Bixia Yuanjin> hellooooh?
[11:38] <Uniformed Man> Oh... hello there young lady. Are your parents home?
[11:38] * Uniformed Man tries to look behind Yuanjin.
[11:38] * Bixia Yuanjin shakes her head!
[11:38] <Bixia Yuanjin> Just me in here right now. Can I help you?
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[11:39] <@spiritflame> irasshai Cora
[11:39] <Uniformed Man> I was hoping to speak to my employer... there are not calls being answered... and people said not to come to this neighborhood... but I had to know.
[11:40] <Uniformed Man> He is not here, is he? He's disappeared?
[11:40] * Uniformed Man holds up the paper clipping
[11:40] * Bixia Yuanjin squints to read it
[11:41] * Cora observes the exchange
[11:41] * Newpaper headline reads "Famous Investing firm under inspection on heavy suspicions of fraud. Evidence appears overwhelming."
[11:41] <Uniformed Man> Is he even here?
[11:42] * Bixia Yuanjin raises an eyebrow
[11:42] * Bixia Yuanjin shakes her head
[11:44] <Uniformed Man> Did he tell you to say this? We don't have the funds. I had to walk here because the cars were impounded. I NEED to speak to him.
[11:44] <Uniformed Man> Can I come inside? Please?
[11:44] * Uniformed Man trembles.
[11:44] <Bixia Yuanjin> Can I just like take your phone number and give you a call if I see anything?
[11:44] <Uniformed Man> What address is this, again?
[11:44] <Uniformed Man> Okay... yes...
[11:45] * Uniformed Man hands Bixia a note of paper, on which he writes down some details.
[11:45] * Bixia Yuanjin sticks an arm out and points to the house number
[11:45] * Bixia Yuanjin accepts!
[11:45] <Uniformed Man> Okay... I guess I should go.
[11:45] * Uniformed Man hands Bixia a set of keys, and a letter of resignation.
[11:46] * Bixia Yuanjin takes both reverently
[11:46] <Bixia Yuanjin> Good luck.
[11:46] <Uniformed Man> Please don't tell your parents I was here, young lady. I need to leave the city now.
[11:46] *** Uniformed Man has quit IRC (How could this have happened?)
[11:46] * Bixia Yuanjin nodsnods
[11:47] * Bixia Yuanjin closes the door and checks to see if the letter is sealed; if it isn't, she reads!
[11:47] <Cora> Did he say who he was seeking?
[11:48] * Letter is sealed.
[11:49] <Bixia Yuanjin> He didn't. I can guess who he was looking for, tho.
[11:50] <Cora> Who is it?
[11:52] <Bixia Yuanjin> My guess?... probably Simon.
[11:55] <TheGreyElf> ....
[11:56] * TheGreyElf slips out of the shadows "I hate when normal people knock at the door"
[11:57] <Cora> Do you think so?
[11:57] <TheGreyElf> I don't
[11:57] <Bixia Yuanjin> I do.
[11:58] <Bixia Yuanjin> Mostly process of elimination. Nobody else who has this address is into anything where they'd have a fleet of cars.
[11:59] <Cora> Oh...
[12:00] * Bixia Yuanjin hands the letter and the keys to Cora
[12:01] <Bixia Yuanjin> That guy said to give these to him. Would you, when you next see him?
[12:01] * Cora looks at them a minute, then tucks them into the folds of her dress
[12:02] <Cora> What that man was talking about..something bad happened, did it not?
[12:03] <Bixia Yuanjin> If my guess is right, Simon's being accused of some kind of fraud in his business-working.
[12:03] <Bixia Yuanjin> To the degree that his assets are being seized.
[12:04] <Bixia Yuanjin> Let's see what the Internet has to say about this!
[12:04] <Bixia Yuanjin> ... where is a computer >:|
[12:05] * Cora looks even more worried than she did before
[12:06] <Bixia Yuanjin> arrrgh we are in the Internet Age why do I not know where a-- INTERNET CAFE! Those are everywhere!
[12:06] <Bixia Yuanjin> ... I don't have money ._.
[12:07] <Bixia Yuanjin> Newspaper!
[12:07] * Bixia Yuanjin scrounges for yen in the couches
[12:10] <Bixia Yuanjin> yessssss money
[12:10] <Bixia Yuanjin> Gonna go get a paper~
[12:10] * Bixia Yuanjin is away: imma getta paper paper paper
[12:12] * Cora sits, taking out the paper and looking at it again
[12:13] <Cora> I wonder what it means?
[12:14] * Paper also has a section about a growing number of people in Tokyo exhibiting HIGHLY unusual behavior.
[12:15] <Cora> *letter
[12:16] * Letter has lots of numbers and statistics in it. Circled with "Why?" and "How did you know?" It also has some threats near the end.
[12:17] * Letter appears to be written on the back of an invoice... and is attached to another letter, which is sealed.
[12:18] <Cora> Oh!
[12:18] * Cora quickly puts it away again
[12:26] * Cora pulls her knees up to her chest, wondering what to do
[12:27] * TheGreyElf walks over and looks at the papers
[12:27] <TheGreyElf> Mind if I take a look?
[12:29] <Cora> I am sure it would be best if you did not. Simon would probably not like it.
[12:30] <TheGreyElf> Are they adressed to him?
[12:30] <TheGreyElf> Or someone else. Or worse, no names at all. Though that is better. If you don't know who it is for, anyone can read it
[12:32] <Cora> But if it is for him, he will be upset.
[12:33] <Cora> If they are intended for someone else, I am sure that he will make sure it is delivered.
[12:35] <TheGreyElf> .......
[12:35] <TheGreyElf> Why don't you make sure he does that.
[12:35] <TheGreyElf> He seems distracted lately and perhaps it would be best if you aided him in such minor tasks
[12:40] <Cora> He said he would be unwell, but lately...
[12:42] <Cora> Surely you do not think that I would involve myself in his business? *looks slightly scandelized*
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[12:48] <@spiritflame> irasshai Vanessa Alexandra
[12:48] * Vanessa Alexandra got out from a few days rest. Her eyes are still dark.
[12:49] <Bixia Yuanjin> Paper!
[12:49] * Bixia Yuanjin brandishes the newspaper triumphantly
[12:49] <Bixia Yuanjin> Now to read it.
[12:49] * Bixia Yuanjin slaps the newspaper down on the table and begins reading for any sign of Simon-like business activities
[12:49] <Bixia Yuanjin> stupid japanese characters all squiggly
[12:50] * Vanessa Alexandra takes a seat on the sofa.
[12:50] <Bixia Yuanjin> Hi sad girl!
[12:52] * Vanessa Alexandra is silent.
[12:52] * Bixia Yuanjin wasn't expecting an answer, so goes back to reading the paper, unoffended
[12:53] * Vanessa Alexandra is still pissed of what happened a few nights.
[12:53] * Cora scoots further away from Mormeril
[12:55] * Vanessa Alexandra doesn't know who to trust.
[12:56] * Bixia Yuanjin would be thankful she's not in that predicament if she knew what was going on in Vanessa's head!
[12:57] * Vanessa Alexandra looks up.
[12:57] * Bixia Yuanjin is taking her time with the articles
[12:58] <Vanessa Alexandra> Sorry, I'm pissed they tried to take me down. Like the weak soldier I am.
[12:58] <Bixia Yuanjin> nnh?
[12:58] <Vanessa Alexandra> And then find my husband cheating on me,.
[12:58] <Bixia Yuanjin> Who tried?
[12:58] <Vanessa Alexandra> Quinox and Etiak/
[12:59] <Bixia Yuanjin> Why? :O
[12:59] <Vanessa Alexandra> If only I was strong enough, I could ring their necksd
[12:59] <Vanessa Alexandra> Because they were keeping the photes of MY MAN CHEATING ON ME
[13:00] * Vanessa Alexandra has a dark aura.
[13:00] <Bixia Yuanjin> :o
[13:01] <Bixia Yuanjin> Who was he cheating on you with?
[13:01] <Vanessa Alexandra> Templar. But they want to keepn the Photoes for evidence
[13:02] <Vanessa Alexandra> Because theyb believe Ying and myself are not the same
[13:02] <Vanessa Alexandra> WE ARE.
[13:02] * Bixia Yuanjin stares blankly for a bit-- then something clicks in her head as she puts it together
[13:03] * Cora listens, very quiet
[13:03] <Bixia Yuanjin> You do know what they're trying to do by keeping that 'evidence', right?
[13:04] <Vanessa Alexandra> I raither burn them and those photes
[13:04] <Vanessa Alexandra> see how they like not having oxygen
[13:05] <Bixia Yuanjin> Are you banking on Anthony and his iterants being determined not to be possessed of personhood?
[13:06] <Vanessa Alexandra> ....what?
[13:06] * Bixia Yuanjin puts the paper down
[13:06] <Bixia Yuanjin> Anthony. Do you remember him?
[13:06] <Vanessa Alexandra> No, I want to be found GUILTY. And I refuse to have anyone help me
[13:07] <Bixia Yuanjin> Why do you want to be found guilty? :\
[13:07] <Vanessa Alexandra> i was out for a few days.
[13:07] <Vanessa Alexandra> Because it's the honest truth. My bird curiously attack his kid without any notion
[13:08] <Vanessa Alexandra> I'm sick of this life when everyone else tries to help you by beating you senseless
[13:08] <Bixia Yuanjin> You can always plead guilty if a trial occurs. No amount of evidence helps stand against that.
[13:09] <Vanessa Alexandra> Fine.
[13:09] <Bixia Yuanjin> The law-ma-bobber allows for that, right?
[13:10] <Bixia Yuanjin> That'll get you put away for a while. I don't think you're going to get charged directly.
[13:10] <Vanessa Alexandra> They will.
[13:10] <Bixia Yuanjin> You seem pretty sure about that.
[13:10] <Bixia Yuanjin> Meanwhile, while you be all guilty in your cell, this Templar girl will get to do whatever she wants.
[13:10] <Bixia Yuanjin> If you're cool with that, then fine.
[13:11] <Bixia Yuanjin> I was under the impression you didn't want her Evil Plans to succeed, but if you've changed your mind...
[13:11] <Vanessa Alexandra> She already has my husband
[13:12] <Bixia Yuanjin> Your husband is an idiot who fell for a disguise.
[13:13] <Bixia Yuanjin> I'm starting to think he's not much better than "I time-share my free will to the highest bidder" Mamoru.
[13:13] <Vanessa Alexandra> yeah.
[13:13] <Bixia Yuanjin> He's loyal, I think, but he's loyal the way a dumb dog is loyal-- easily distracted and confused.
[13:15] <Bixia Yuanjin> Like I think if you get found guilty he'll do something stupid to try and free you from whatever sentence gets passed on you.
[13:15] <Vanessa Alexandra> ..yeah.
[13:17] <Cora> I am not sure I understand.
[13:17] <Vanessa Alexandra> I can't stop templar. I can't fight her. She kniows this.
[13:17] <Bixia Yuanjin> What part?
[13:18] <Vanessa Alexandra> Dante isn't like that.
[13:18] <Cora> If you are not guilty, and the evidance shows this, how can saying you are guilty overturn that?
[13:20] <Vanessa Alexandra> Cause everyone knows I'm a bad apple
[13:20] <Bixia Yuanjin> Let me handle this, Vanessa. :)
[13:20] <Vanessa Alexandra> i deserve to be punished.
[13:21] <Bixia Yuanjin> The way a lot of justice systems work-- I don't know if it's going to do so for this one-- is that if it's a criminal trial, the accused has the chance to plead innocent, guilty, or something no-contest before the trial even begins.
[13:22] <Bixia Yuanjin> If you plead guilty, you tend to straight to the part where people determine your sentence-- unless in cases like Vanessa's, where people might try before the court case to get her determined as legally incompetent to stand trial.
[13:22] <Bixia Yuanjin> If you plead innocent, then the trial begins in proper.
[13:23] <Bixia Yuanjin> I'm not super-fluent in law-ese-- I know the ways of the gods, not man-- but that's a decent guess.
[13:24] <Vanessa Alexandra> Incompent my ass, I'm not an idiot
[13:24] <Vanessa Alexandra> I just want to be sentanced Guilty
[13:26] <Bixia Yuanjin> We know.
[13:26] <Bixia Yuanjin> That's exactly why people may fight that point.
[13:26] <Bixia Yuanjin> You may want to die, but others see worth in you.
[13:27] <Vanessa Alexandra> It's because I only guard an f[BLEEP]ken immortality granting bird]
[13:27] * Bixia Yuanjin pats Vanessa on the shoulder
[13:27] <Vanessa Alexandra> if I never had the phoenix, peoploe will see me as just another stupid girl
[13:28] <Bixia Yuanjin> Would you prefer they kill the bird?
[13:28] <Bixia Yuanjin> I mean 'the universe,' not people per se.
[13:28] * Cora wonders if someone who really wanted to die would pursue such a complicated and indirect way of doing it.
[13:29] <Vanessa Alexandra> no...I don't want hitori to die.
[13:29] <Vanessa Alexandra> he's the only friend i have
[13:29] <Bixia Yuanjin> Because if you plead guilty, that's what's going to happen.
[13:31] <Bixia Yuanjin> Anthony wants justice done, and it was the phoenix who destroyed it. Not you.
[13:31] <Cora> A phoenix? Would it not simply be born?
[13:31] <Vanessa Alexandra> hitori was trying to save my life. so he pecked at the machine'
[13:32] <Vanessa Alexandra> in 500 years, it would
[13:32] <Cora> *reborn
[13:32] <Eitak_RAzal> 1. That is grounds for justifed self defense
[13:32] <Bixia Yuanjin> There are... forces present that could do such a thing.
[13:33] <Eitak_RAzal> 2. You would have more freinds if you got it though your think skull that others here already consider theirs and stop hateing yourself
[13:33] <Bixia Yuanjin> Eitak, we're not talking about her legal defense. We're talking about what happens if-when Vanessa pleads guilty.
[13:33] * Vanessa Alexandra glares at Eitak
[13:33] <Bixia Yuanjin> I want to make sure she knows the consequences of her actions.
[13:34] <Vanessa Alexandra> i never wanted one.
[13:34] <Bixia Yuanjin> If you go down, you'll be taking your friend with you.
[13:34] <Eitak_RAzal> You infuriate me you know that right?
[13:35] <Vanessa Alexandra> .....
[13:35] <Bixia Yuanjin> She knows, she doesn't care, she prefers it that way.
[13:35] <Bixia Yuanjin> Think about it, Vanessa.
[13:35] <Bixia Yuanjin> Think really hard.
[13:35] <Bixia Yuanjin> If you want to drag him down with you, then that's your choice, and I won't complain.
[13:36] <Cora> If it takes 500 years, who keeps his ashes for all of that time?
[13:36] * Vanessa Alexandra lowers her head. Is silent'
[13:36] <Bixia Yuanjin> That's something the courts would have to decide, Cora.
[13:37] <Bixia Yuanjin> I've said my peace. It's your choice, quiet-girl. :\
[13:37] * Bixia Yuanjin goes back to the paper
[13:38] * Vanessa Alexandra is still silent.
[13:38] <Cora> Did you find anything there, Miss Bixia?
[13:39] <Bixia Yuanjin> Haven't yet! I'm not far in, tho.
[13:41] * Cora worries the bracelet around on her wrist
[13:41] * Vanessa Alexandra gets up and leaves.
[13:41] *** Vanessa Alexandra has left #suburbansenshi2
[13:42] <Bixia Yuanjin> The most I can do for her is hope she remembers what I've said. :\
[13:43] <Bixia Yuanjin> When it comes to the sins of another, though...
[13:43] * Bixia Yuanjin refocuses
[13:53] * Bixia Yuanjin is away: arrgh why did i get the big edition
[13:54] * Cora stares out the window, quite distracted
[14:12] <TheGreyElf> ....
[14:13] * Cora jumps with a squeak when Mormoril appears
[14:20] <Cora> Why do you do that?
[14:26] <TheGreyElf> I've been standing here
[14:26] <TheGreyElf> Also, It's good practice
[14:34] <Cora> I suppose it makes you feel powerful. My mother always told me that men like power.
[14:36] <TheGreyElf> ..... Not true
[14:39] <TheGreyElf> If I cared about power I'd be using the necromancy I know freely.
[14:41] <Cora> I suppose...I have not known any without it.
[14:47] <TheGreyElf> That said I've been enintrely without power before. My dead body a puppet for another to use as she saw fit
[14:57] <Cora> I am not sure what that means, but I am sorry.
[15:39] * Cora looks at her bracelets a while, then at Mormeril
[15:49] <Cora> What might you do, if you were once again alive?
[16:19] <TheGreyElf> Go find the woman I was about to marry.
[16:21] <Cora> Forgive me for asking; however, what if she had moved on?
[16:22] <TheGreyElf> Then I will part ways happy that she is happy
[16:24] * Cora thinks again
[16:25] <TheGreyElf> Also its been only about 10 years... that's really not that long
[16:36] <Cora> I wonder if they would work?
[16:45] <TheGreyElf> ?
[16:47] * Cora looks outside to see how dark it is
[16:47] <Cora> Please excuse me.
[16:47] *** Cora has left #suburbansenshi2
[19:48] *** LOVELYgirl [amongimmortals@otherworld.net] has joined #suburbansenshi2
[19:48] <@spiritflame> irasshai LOVELYgirl
[19:48] * LOVELYgirl comes in from downstairs and heads over for food
[19:50] *** Arx Sylvanran [arx_s@justitia.panopticon.gallifrey.sen] has joined #suburbansenshi2
[19:50] <@spiritflame> irasshai Arx Sylvanran
[19:51] * TheGreyElf looks at Arx Sylvanran.
[19:51] *** Arx Sylvanran is





Her image Song is: 'Number One (Chokkaku Mix)' by Shiro Sagisu.

[19:51] <TheGreyElf> ?
[19:52] <Arx Sylvanran> Yes?
[19:52] <TheGreyElf> Nothing.
[19:52] * Arx Sylvanran checks over some paperwork.
[19:53] * LOVELYgirl sits with a large steak and salad and eats quickly, the tea waiting for later
[19:54] * Raihosha checks the testimony from the last two days.
[19:54] * Eitak_Razal sits on a floating platform
[19:56] <Eitak_Razal> So the trial ends today then?
[19:56] <LOVELYgirl> I hope so!
[19:57] <Arx Sylvanran> Yes. I intend for oral arguments to end at 21:30, and then to deliberate with the other judges for no more than 30 minutes.
[19:57] <Arx Sylvanran> So counsel will have to pace themselves accordingly.
[19:57] <Eitak_Razal> That's... only two hours
[19:57] <Eitak_Razal> Well. Two and half..
[19:57] <Arx Sylvanran> We've had two days.
[19:58] <Eitak_Razal> Probably was only like 6 hours or so total...
[19:58] <Eitak_Razal> ten at most..
[19:58] <Arx Sylvanran> It is an expedited trial system.
[19:58] <Raihosha> I'll point out the definition of Expedited to her majesty.
[19:58] <LOVELYgirl> That's forever.
[19:59] <Eitak_Razal> It hasn't been very fast if you've been examineing the same witness the entire duration of it
[19:59] <Judge Ryan> I'll show YOU forever!
[19:59] * Judge Ryan SHOWS YOU FOREVER THROUGH THE POWER OF MAGIC
[19:59] <Raihosha> Please Judge Ryan, save the sex for after the trial?
[19:59] <Arx Sylvanran> Well there is only one other question I think I need answered from that witness, personally.
[20:00] <Judge Ryan> But that wasn't sex. D:
[20:01] * Eitak_Razal has enough powers of magic of her own. She doesn't need yours.
[20:01] <Eitak_Razal> And you can't ask it now, as was pointed out. You have to let the lawyers do that
[20:01] <Arx Sylvanran> ...and both Prosecutor Klavier and the Defendant are missing.
[20:02] <Eitak_Razal> .... What happens if one of them doesn't show?
[20:02] <Arx Sylvanran> I suppose I cannot ask it.
[20:02] <Raihosha> Well, it will be asked.
[20:03] <Arx Sylvanran> Well... if they do not show, the judges will have to decide if they feel comfortable ruling.
[20:04] <LOVELYgirl> I'm okay with that.
[20:04] <Raihosha> Once Mr. Suthers does show up he had a question directed to the bench, we should let him take care of that first.
[20:04] <Eitak_Razal> We could always get a replacment proscutor and examine another witness in the mean time.
[20:05] <Arx Sylvanran> I was pondering that.
[20:05] <Arx Sylvanran> But who.
[20:05] <Arx Sylvanran> I know you are a potential witness
[20:06] <Raihosha> I'm not sure if we need another witness.
[20:06] <Arx Sylvanran> Heh.
[20:06] <Arx Sylvanran> I think other perspectives would be wise.
[20:07] <Eitak_Razal> So far we've only heard the fro the defendent himself. An outside view might help put things into perspective
[20:07] <Raihosha> There may be some truth to that.
[20:07] <Raihosha> Or it might be a very skewed view of the defendant. He is a very private person.
[20:08] <Arx Sylvanran> and very careful in his phraseology.
[20:08] <Arx Sylvanran> Too careful, I think, at times.
[20:08] <LOVELYgirl> It's really really frustrating >>
[20:08] <Raihosha> I believe it is part of his professional background.
[20:09] <Arx Sylvanran> Well, he has to realize we can only rule based on what he gives us.
[20:09] <Raihosha> True.
[20:09] <Judge Ryan> Which was why I was trying to get him to open up yesterday.
[20:09] <Judge Ryan> Damn stubborn.
[20:10] * @spiritflame changes topic to `[19:57] <Arx Sylvanran> oral arguments end at 21:45, and deliberation with the other judges for no more than 15 minutes`
[20:10] <LOVELYgirl> Yeah. But it still made me want to smack him.
[20:11] <Raihosha> Given that this is closer to the Continental System I believe it is not inappropriate that the bench ask clarification of the witness.
[20:11] <Arx Sylvanran> I am tempted to force him to answer yes or no questions, I'll have you know.
[20:12] <Arx Sylvanran> He must learn directness and concision in short order.
[20:12] <Raihosha> He isn't exactly a hostile witness.
[20:12] <Judge Ryan> Not exactly an open one, either.
[20:12] <Arx Sylvanran> Indeed.
[20:15] <LOVELYgirl> I might have something I want to ask, too...
[20:16] *** Klavier [k_gavin@thegavinners.com] has joined #suburbansenshi2
[20:16] <@spiritflame> irasshai Klavier
[20:16] <Arx Sylvanran> Ahh Proescutor Klavier. As the Defendant is not here yet, I think we should move full ahead with getting some testimony from Ms. Eitak.
[20:17] <Klavier> Yes. She has shared some...interesting information with me.
[20:17] <Arx Sylvanran> Then I call this session to order.
[20:18] <Arx Sylvanran> Proceed, Herr Klavier.
[20:18] * Judge Ryan SLAMS DOWN HIS HAMMER AGAIN
[20:18] * The bench shudders but HOLDS
[20:18] <Judge Ryan> Wow. You've guys improved it this time.
[20:19] <Klavier> I would like to call Fraulien Eitak Razal to the stand.
[20:19] * HazMat Prinnies are on standby for cleanup from Judge Ryan's gavel.
[20:19] * Arx Sylvanran directs her to the stand
[20:20] * Eitak_Razal takes her place at the witness stand
[20:21] <Klavier> Fraulien Eitak...You have some information regarding Herr Suthers's motives to share with the court.
[20:21] <Klavier> Please testify as to the events that you witnessed.
[20:21] <Eitak_Razal> Any event? Or a specfic one?
[20:22] <Raihosha> What event is being presented here?
[20:25] * Klavier points to the time marker reading 21:30
[20:26] * Eitak_Razal turns to Rai. "You should know the event. As it happened on your ship"
[20:26] <Raihosha> Yes. Unfortunately noone who isn't a time active can remember it at all.
[20:27] <Raihosha> Mr. Suthers is a bit of an anomoly as the one in this scene was erased from the time stream by a Time Lord.
[20:28] <Arx Sylvanran> ...
[20:28] <Arx Sylvanran> So is the current Suthers an alternate?
[20:29] <Arx Sylvanran> ^Alternate reality version
[20:29] <Eitak_Razal> Probably.
[20:29] <Raihosha> I might submit that this indicates that Mr. Suthers presence is required by the timesttream.
[20:29] <Eitak_Razal> That Tony is likely dead. And nearly killed Thrash and tried to take over Aescapulus.
[20:29] <Arx Sylvanran> This is an important point. Is he an alternate version, or a manufactured replacement?
[20:30] <LOVELYgirl> But that is a different Tony? Or not?
[20:30] <Eitak_Razal> .... I don't know. I belived he was a replacement.
[20:30] <Raihosha> He does seem to share some similar history with this one.
[20:30] <Eitak_Razal> Also. For some areason, this Tony has memories of that one.
[20:30] <Arx Sylvanran> A vague answer. Either of the two could share similar histo...
[20:31] <Eitak_Razal> I belive he stated he arrived on this world on Kaguya.
[20:31] <Arx Sylvanran> Memories?
[20:31] <Arx Sylvanran> How would he, a non time active, have the memries of his other self?
[20:31] <Eitak_Razal> But that was before the event in question
[20:31] <Eitak_Razal> I.. Don't know.
[20:31] <Arx Sylvanran> Is he a "downloaded copy" akin to Cylons?
[20:31] <Eitak_Razal> It took me by surpise as well.
[20:31] * Arx Sylvanran is directing this now to Suther's counsel
[20:31] <Raihosha> Unless he is a close parallel.
[20:32] <Arx Sylvanran> Do you know the answer.
[20:32] <Arx Sylvanran> In the absence of the defendant, you speak for him.
[20:33] <Raihosha> I am not aware of his actual status. He came back during a time when the timeline was particularly ... open.
[20:33] * Arx Sylvanran makes a dissatisfied sound.
[20:33] <Eitak_Razal> We peaked back at the even in question a bit further your honor
[20:34] * Arx Sylvanran bids Klavier continue the questioning then
[20:34] <Eitak_Razal> Looking back over the dialgoue that took place before my person arrived... One statment stands out
[20:34] <Eitak_Razal> One. Tony admits to being Mass Produced
[20:35] <Raihosha> I would request that Ms. Kwon would be the better subject for relating events?
[20:35] <Eitak_Razal> LET ME FINISH!
[20:35] <Arx Sylvanran> Kwon?
[20:35] <Arx Sylvanran> Mass produced?
[20:35] <Klavier> Could you please post that statement that stands out, Fraulein Eitak?
[20:35] * Eitak_Razal snaps then composes herself. "Sorry.
[20:35] <Arx Sylvanran> Yes, let her finish.
[20:35] <Klavier> And please, keep the emotions to a minimum.
[20:35] <Arx Sylvanran> Let the record speak for itself.
[20:36] <Eitak_Razal> [21:34] <Aescapulus> It would appear you are part of a distributed network of androids. [21:34] <Anthony Suthers> i have always wanted that. [21:35] <Aescapulus> I have friends, Mr. Suthers, they always make life worth it. [21:35] <Anthony Suthers> I have no friends. I wanted that, but not as much as I want the most important thing to every sapient living creature. I want to endure. [21:35] <Anthony Suthers> I want children. [21:36] <Anthony Suthers> All of the hostages, and let me point out, that it is absurdly easy to take the place of bus drivers, can survive--up to you and Raihosha. I'll get what I want---one way or another. [21:37] <Aescapulus> You wish children. [21:37] <Anthony Suthers> You know... I was afraid Rai would discover me when the support snapped in my arm. [21:37] <Anthony Suthers> but I prefer it that way, because that way I would not have to disguise myself as a cab driver or something and pretent to be injured to play on his pity. [21:37] <Aescapulus> That is an odd wish for one who is potentially immortal... [21:37] <Anthony Suthers> It's nothing personal Ascapulus---you have your purpose, and I have mine. [21:38] <Anthony Suthers> Ever heard of the Tyrranis nebula, Aescapulus? Did your "father" ever take you there? [21:38] <Anthony Suthers> Totalitarian, with enforcers who were indistinguishable from the pupulace. [21:38] <Anthony Suthers> I was one of them. Anthony Series.
[20:36] <Eitak_Razal> The first and last statments are the most relavent
[20:37] <Klavier> I believe, Herr Raihosha, that Aescapulus is your craft, correct?
[20:37] <Raihosha> However if I may speak for Aescapulus?
[20:37] <Arx Sylvanran> Anthony... series.
[20:37] <Raihosha> He is a friend.
[20:37] <Arx Sylvanran> go on, Counselor
[20:37] <Raihosha> But he is also my place of residence.
[20:37] <Arx Sylvanran> And?
[20:38] <Raihosha> The distributed network is question was one that Mr. Suthers constructed on his own once he arrived on Earth.
[20:38] * ArcheryGirl appears in the Gallery and watches.
[20:39] <Raihosha> Whether they are children or copies is unclear.
[20:39] <Raihosha> But some of his statements indicate he spread his consciousness over a series of bodies.
[20:39] <Arx Sylvanran> Like the Cylon...
[20:39] <Arx Sylvanran> [21:38] <Anthony Suthers> I was one of them. Anthony Series. ”
[20:39] <Raihosha> Unfortunately that ability doesn't answer the courts core questions.
[20:40] <Klavier> A collective, so to speak?
[20:40] <Arx Sylvanran> no, but it adds more pieces of the puzzle.
[20:40] <Klavier> If I may refer to Star Trek?
[20:40] <Eitak_Razal> HOLD IT!
[20:40] <Judge Ryan> LOUD NOISES
[20:40] <Arx Sylvanran> ...
[20:40] <Raihosha> I will note that Aescapulus could do the same if he had a reason to.
[20:40] <Arx Sylvanran> ?
[20:40] <Eitak_Razal> The way he's phraseing the stament, it seems more like he's refering to his home at that point
[20:40] <Arx Sylvanran> What does the witness want to say
[20:41] <Arx Sylvanran> which statement.
[20:41] <Arx Sylvanran> Quote.
[20:41] <Eitak_Razal> [21:38] <Anthony Suthers> Totalitarian, with enforcers who were indistinguishable from the pupulace. [21:38] <Anthony Suthers> I was one of them. Anthony Series.
[20:42] <Eitak_Razal> He was mass produced on his home planet!
[20:42] * crowd murmurs
[20:42] <Judge Ryan> Humans can be mass produced, too. It doesn't mean they're not unique or sentient.
[20:42] <Raihosha> And?
[20:42] <Arx Sylvanran> A "series" desgination implies a model, however.
[20:42] <Raihosha> I'd like to point out this part:
[20:42] <Raihosha> [21:34] <Anthony Suthers> You know, Aescapulus, I have always amired you. [21:34] <Anthony Suthers> You seem to be perfectly content with your role in life. [21:34] <Aescapulus> It would appear you are part of a distributed network of androids. [21:34] <Anthony Suthers> i have always wanted that. [21:35] <Aescapulus> I have friends, Mr. Suthers, they always make life worth it. [21:35] <Anthony Suthers> I have no friends. I wanted that, but not as much as I want the most important thing to every sapient living creature. I want to endure.
[20:43] <Judge Ryan> The Galactic Republic's Grand Army of the Republic.
[20:43] <Judge Ryan> Clones yet unique individuals.
[20:44] <Raihosha> I believe if you skip the first statement by Aescapulus you have Mr. Suthers complete statement there...
[20:44] <Raihosha> He is indicateing he has never felt content with his life?
[20:44] <Raihosha> And he wishes to leave a legacy.
[20:45] <Raihosha> What is more human than that?
[20:45] <Klavier> Herr Raihosha, there are many human beings that are content with leaving a different kind of legacy than their offspring.
[20:45] <Klavier> Through their music and art, for example.
[20:45] * Eitak_Razal recoils slighty, screwed over by her own evidance
[20:45] <Klavier> Or they are content with not having children at all.
[20:46] <Raihosha> Children by another name, Herr Klavier.
[20:47] <Arx Sylvanran> Viruses want to breed and are not sentient ny and large.
[20:47] <Arx Sylvanran> Computer programs can be made to aggressively seek out and reproduce, but are not sentient.
[20:48] <Arx Sylvanran> Is Suthers' desire the result of a "huamn" longing, or a simulation of the same?
[20:48] <Raihosha> But he wasn't meant to reproduce.
[20:48] <Judge Ryan> I haven't seen a virus in a few days come in here, arguing about their existence.
[20:48] <Arx Sylvanran> Explain.
[20:48] <Eitak_Razal> Perhaps it was a but in his programming.
[20:48] <Eitak_Razal> *bug
[20:48] <Raihosha> From the testimony last night.
[20:49] <Arx Sylvanran> That testimony was never conclusively finished.
[20:49] <Raihosha> He indicated he would face punishment for his creation of children.
[20:49] <Arx Sylvanran> That doesn't mean he was rendered incapable of having them. A virus that infectes the wrong system would be no good, after all.
[20:49] <Raihosha> He said he would gladly face that punishment.
[20:49] <Arx Sylvanran> ...
[20:50] * Arx Sylvanran digests that point
[20:50] <Klavier> What type of punishment is he talking about, though?
[20:50] * Eitak_Razal again recoils at this.
[20:50] <Arx Sylvanran> Unknown.
[20:50] <Arx Sylvanran> What else have you from Ms. Razal?
[20:50] <Raihosha> Given the nature of his world? We'd be rather upset by it.
[20:52] <Raihosha> Is that to me or Herr Klavier your honor?
[20:53] <Arx Sylvanran> Herr Klavier.
[20:53] <Klavier> Herr Suthers did have a lot to say about his thoughts on the moon monarch, Your Honors.
[20:53] <Raihosha> I would like to make a point of clarification?
[20:54] <Arx Sylvanran> Yes?
[20:55] <Klavier> In fact, after viewing this log that Fraulein Eitak provided me, it appears that this Herr Suthers had his sights set on acquiring the power to become god-like.
[20:55] <Raihosha> He is referring, I believe, to Ms. Chibiusa from one of her less flattering points of time? He may not have understood her later maturation.
[20:56] <Arx Sylvanran> Suthers' esigns on godhood only matter to the court if they shed light on the nature of his being. Does your evidence do so?
[20:57] <Eitak_Razal> It shows he's determined to bring his idea of order at all costs
[20:57] <Eitak_Razal> He would like nothing better then to impose his view of order on this world
[20:57] <Arx Sylvanran> But that could be simple zzealotry as opposed to hard code.
[20:58] <Raihosha> And I will note his plan seemed to hinge on allowing himself to be defeated to allow the future princess to enforce HER order...
[20:58] <Raihosha> It doesn't make a lot of sense, but a lot was going on at the time.
[20:58] <Arx Sylvanran> But that could still bea concession to an inbuilt desire to serve whoever the greater order is.
[20:58] <Eitak_Razal> His Order, ChibiUsa's order, it doesn't matter. All that Tony cares about is order.
[20:59] <Raihosha> Inbuilt? Or ingrained?
[20:59] <Eitak_Razal> Not good, not evil. Order.
[20:59] <Arx Sylvanran> That is what i was trying to find out last night.
[20:59] <Raihosha> That is the central question.
[20:59] <Klavier> He makes many mentions about being able to copy his program to other sources...namely, your ship, Herr Raihosha.
[20:59] <Raihosha> Eitak, sometimes order is necessary.
[21:00] <Arx Sylvanran> if he's just a tool blindly following a program that lets him grow as much as he wants so long as the prrogram itself is fulfilled
[21:00] <Eitak_Razal> Raihosa. I propose a question to you!
[21:00] <Arx Sylvanran> or not.
[21:00] <Raihosha> He made the attempt. Aescapulus wasn't in any danger of being pushed out.
[21:00] <Eitak_Razal> Can order exist without chaos?
[21:00] <Arx Sylvanran> We aren;'t here to argue the merits of order.
[21:01] <Arx Sylvanran> Herr Klavier--- does anything in the evidence you have shed more light on Tony's origins or limitations?
[21:01] * Raihosha locks gazes with Eitak.
[21:01] <Arx Sylvanran> Same question to you, Counselor Raihosha.
[21:01] <Klavier> Yes.
[21:01] <Arx Sylvanran> With only 44 minutes left and no defendanf we must press on.
[21:02] <Arx Sylvanran> Present your evidence, Herr klavier.
[21:02] * Eitak_Razal grips the stand and says to herself ".... Tony belives it can. It's an imposabtly. And resonable person would think otherwise"
[21:03] <Klavier> [21:45] <Anthony Suthers> How does it feel to be in several places at once? Do you know how long it took me to upload myself to all of those computers?
[21:03] <Klavier> [21:49] <Anthony Suthers> This can end in one of two ways. You can upload a copy of me--and preserve me so I can do my duty.
[21:04] * crowd gasps
[21:04] <Klavier> [21:59] <Anthony Suthers> - You can't destroy me---not any more---I have become more than an assassin, more than a cyborg, more than a man. -
[21:04] <Klavier> [22:00] <Anthony Suthers> - I am an idea---I am now the embodiment that desperation will justify cruelty---such as it has always been! -
[21:04] <Raihosha> Ms. Eitak, I know more about that than you could possibly wish. We shall speak another time.
[21:05] <Klavier> [21:56] <Anthony Suthers> Oh Thrash... do you think insanity could claim me? I don't have a brain.
[21:06] <Klavier> [21:54] <Anthony Suthers> I could have helped you, Aescapulus---I am immune to disease---my skin repairs itself endlessly. I could safe burn victims--I could treat the teribley contagious---don't throwy this away!
[21:06] <Klavier> Multiple times he refers to his own self as a construct.
[21:06] <Klavier> Multiple times he refers to his own self as something greater.
[21:07] <Klavier> Multiple times...
[21:07] * Klavier points
[21:07] <Raihosha> I will note that this is going on while he makes the later statements:
[21:07] <Judge Ryan> Yet. Is that the old Tony talking or new?
[21:07] <Raihosha> [22:01] <Thrash> FEEL THE POWER OF THE SHADOW ENEGINE
[21:08] <Eitak_Razal> I've already stated they share memories. It's very likely the two are one and the same
[21:08] <Judge Ryan> Very likely is not the same as actually are.
[21:09] <Arx Sylvanran> Well if there is a decentralized overmind... it makes sense.
[21:09] <Raihosha> And as to the lack of a brain... I made an oath to the current Suthers...
[21:09] <Arx Sylvanran> It sounds like this Suthers body is just a reciever of some kind...
[21:10] <Raihosha> As part of my Hippocratic Oath...
[21:10] <Arx Sylvanran> any other data from this incident, Counselor Klavier?
[21:11] <Raihosha> But if you can accept evidence from Aescapulus he may fill in details that he gathered from the previous Anthony.
[21:11] * Arx Sylvanran looks to Judge Ryan
[21:11] * Arx Sylvanran looks to Judge Miara
[21:12] <Arx Sylvanran> I'm willing?
[21:12] <LOVELYgirl> Sure.
[21:12] <Klavier> If you want to review this data for yourselves, I shall supply it to you.
[21:12] <Arx Sylvanran> We have a majority of the bench. Proceed.
[21:13] <Raihosha> Alright.
[21:13] * Raihosha places a projector in the witness stand.
[21:13] <Judge Ryan> Go ahead
[21:13] <Eitak_Razal> ... You could wait for me to move
[21:13] * Aescapulus looks in the mirror.
[21:13] *** Aescapulus is 4000km diameter spaceship. Fortunately for your planet, he is talking to you from a small radio speaker.
hir image Song is: "The World" by Emily Bindinger.

[21:13] * Eitak_Razal moves...
[21:14] <Aescapulus> Mistress Miara, how pleasant to see you again.
[21:15] <LOVELYgirl> Hi Aescapulus!
[21:15] <Judge Ryan> It's a tra... ship.
[21:16] <Aescapulus> I do not recognize the other Justices?
[21:16] <Arx Sylvanran> Arx Sylvanran, of Gallifrey.
[21:16] <Aescapulus> A pleasure Madam Time Lord.
[21:17] <Judge Ryan> Ryan. Of Some Other Universe.
[21:17] <Arx Sylvanran> Likewise. It has beena long timew since I have spoken to a sentient planetoid.
[21:17] <Judge Ryan> Nice to meet you.
[21:17] <Aescapulus> A pleasure Judge Ryan.
[21:18] <Klavier> So this is your ship, Herr Raihosha? Impressive.
[21:18] <Aescapulus> My background is a bit complex, Madam Time Lord, but sentient planetoid is a sufficiently congruent concept...
[21:21] <Raihosha> He is that, Herr Klavier. I cannot and will not give evidence on the current Mr. Suthers based on my oath to him as a physician. But Aescapulus has transporter scans from the previous Mr. Suthers which he can comment on... However this is dangerously close to brending my oath...
[21:21] <Raihosha> SO I shall let Aescapulus speak for himself?
[21:23] <Arx Sylvanran> Acceptable.
[21:24] <Judge Ryan> Have a blast.
[21:24] <LOVELYgirl> He's on the witness stand already.
[21:24] <Aescapulus> Sorry, I was composing my thoughts...
[21:25] <Aescapulus> In reviewing the court records, it would appear Mr. Suthers is in a bit of trouble.
[21:26] <Judge Ryan> How so?
[21:26] <Aescapulus> I mean that he is in the court.
[21:26] * Eitak_Razal looks over the court record. "... Only a couple pieces of evidance in the court record and only like 5 profiles. Smallest case ever"
[21:27] <Arx Sylvanran> Yes.
[21:27] <Aescapulus> But if it helps, I believe Mr. Suthers's physiology is in question here?
[21:27] <Arx Sylvanran> yes
[21:28] <Aescapulus> In that case, the statement that Mr. Suthers doesn't have a brain is only technically true.
[21:29] <Aescapulus> While his body doesn't have an organic brain as most recognize it, he does have a distributed network of EMP-resistant CPUs that contain his intelligence.
[21:30] <Arx Sylvanran> Are the CPUs in his proimary body?
[21:30] <Arx Sylvanran> ^primary body
[21:30] <Arx Sylvanran> Or are they outside of that shell.
[21:31] <Aescapulus> They are in the body we identify as "Mr. Suthers"... if he has another primary body, no that is doubtful.
[21:31] <Aescapulus> I must extrapolate here...
[21:32] <Aescapulus> He lost communication with his companion copies in the incident, when he arrived aboard me. This indicates he has not FTL Comm technology.
[21:32] <Arx Sylvanran> "companion copies"?
[21:33] <Aescapulus> His body however, at no point lost control of itself.
[21:33] <Aescapulus> What he referred to in uploading himself?
[21:33] <Aescapulus> However those were erased with him.
[21:34] <Arx Sylvanran> So in theory he can divorce the data in his body from his body with no ill effect?
[21:34] <Aescapulus> I am fortunate in Raihosha making several journies with me that have exposed me to Arton energies, that allow me to actually make evidence.
[21:36] <Aescapulus> Madam Time Lord, the ability to copy oneself is common among those of us who think on silicon substrates. However...
[21:37] <Aescapulus> I didn't have time to examine said copies, so I can not swear they were complete copies.
[21:37] <Klavier> [22:02] <Anthony Suthers> I'm one---one out of a million. What you do won't matter, thrash. [22:05] <Anthony Suthers> It's not over yet. You won't find my backup---now stop this nonsense.
[21:37] <Aescapulus> They did identify themselves as Anthony Suthers, however.
[21:38] <Arx Sylvanran> So he can back himself up and ostensibly copy himself...
[21:39] <Arx Sylvanran> Is there any more key evidence? I would like to have closing statements in a moment.
[21:39] <Aescapulus> True. But as a fellow artificial intelligence, I do ask... as Yumiko might say "S what?"
[21:40] <Aescapulus> Oh... wait... I apologize, that is quite unbecoming of me for a courtroom.
[21:41] <Arx Sylvanran> Se are attempting to derive if he is a true AI or a limited purpose driven tool wih AI traits.
[21:41] <Aescapulus> It is such an exciting opportunity to socialize like this. The spammers and Nigerian Princes are such boring conversationalists.
[21:41] <Judge Ryan> Don't we have a queen from Nigeria around here?
[21:41] <Arx Sylvanran> Forever bound by his initial settings
[21:41] <LOVELYgirl> Maybes?
[21:41] * Klavier chuckles "I see you have to deal with those too?"
[21:42] *** LOL
[21:42] * Eitak_Razal shoots Ryan a look that says "If this wasn't a court, you'd be on fire"
[21:42] <Aescapulus> Madam Time Lord, if I may, he was quite the interesting conversationalist.
[21:42] <Judge Ryan> Oh, it's you!
[21:42] <Judge Ryan> See, I was right.
[21:42] <Judge Ryan> Anyway.
[21:43] <Eitak_Razal>
[21:43] <Arx Sylvanran> May we now have closing statements? Prosecution, then defense.
[21:43] <Arx Sylvanran> ...
[21:43] <Arx Sylvanran> Yes?
[21:43] <Eitak_Razal> I object to the Judge's remarks!
[21:43] * Eitak_Razal points at Ryan
[21:43] <Arx Sylvanran> 9_9
[21:43] <Aescapulus> Mr. Klavier, I am afraid I comprise 2% of the internet backbone currently, it is a common hazard.
[21:43] <Arx Sylvanran> May we now have closing statements? Prosecution, then defense.
[21:43] <Judge Ryan> My large hammer overrules you.
[21:44] <Klavier> All right then.
[21:44] <Aescapulus> I am dismissed?
[21:44] <Judge Ryan> Thank you for your testimony.
[21:44] <Arx Sylvanran> Yes.
[21:44] <Arx Sylvanran> Thank you.
[21:45] * Aescapulus 's projector floats towards an empty seat in the gallery. He's excited to get out and meet people openly.
[21:45] * Suu has been seated in the gallery
[21:45] <Raihosha> He's a great guy.
[21:46] <Suu> Hi there
[21:46] <Klavier> All right then, ladies and gentlemen...
[21:46] * Aescapulus settles next to Ms. Suu.
[21:46] <Klavier> In the past few days Herr Suthers has enlighened us to his origins and beliefs
[21:48] <Aescapulus> a pleasure to meet you in person Ms. Suu.
[21:49] <Klavier> There has been much speculation on his morals and motives, which are in stark contrast to those that a normal human being may possess.
[21:50] <Klavier> The moral code that he abides by is one that deals in absolutes.
[21:51] <Klavier> He has also made allusions to his physical being, the fact that he is able to replicate himself...
[21:52] <Klavier> Also, to the belief that his word is absolute, and that he is a paragon of justice.
[21:52] *** Anthony Suthers [Anthony@WhateverIsNecessary.gov] has joined #suburbansenshi2
[21:52] <@spiritflame> irasshai Anthony Suthers
[21:52] <Klavier> He wishes to have the entire world ascribe to his sense of order.
[21:52] <Eitak_Razal> Speak of the devil.
[21:53] * Raihosha signs Suthers to come over and sit.
[21:53] <Klavier> His development does not mirror that of a normal human being.
[21:53] * Anthony Suthers obeys at once.
[21:53] * Klavier notices Tony come in...
[21:53] <Klavier> Herr Suthers, you're quite late...
[21:53] <Raihosha>
[21:53] <Klavier> Are you all right?
[21:53] <Raihosha> Before we conclude...
[21:54] * Eitak_Razal recoils yet again.
[21:54] <Raihosha> As Mr. Suthers has made it, there were a few matters from last night? May the defendant have his say?
[21:55] <Arx Sylvanran> He may, but it will be lieu of your closinfg statement. is that acceptable?
[21:56] <Klavier> I have no objection.
[21:56] <Arx Sylvanran> And you, Counsel Riahosha?
[21:56] * Anthony Suthers hesitates.
[21:56] <Arx Sylvanran> Because he will need the time from you both.
[21:57] <Raihosha> If Mr. Suthers prefers it this way, I shall leave it up to him.
[21:57] * Arx Sylvanran looks to the defendant
[21:57] <Arx Sylvanran> Are you willing to proceed?
[21:57] <Arx Sylvanran> With your final statement?
[21:58] <Anthony Suthers> I only wish to make one statement. You asked me... the prior night, what directive I followed when I sired my children.
[21:58] <Anthony Suthers> I wish to answer it.
[21:58] <Anthony Suthers> My counsel can say what he wishes after that.
[21:58] <Arx Sylvanran> I asked you if you were breaking your law.
[21:58] <Anthony Suthers> Is this acceptable?
[21:58] <Arx Sylvanran> That ias a very different question.
[21:58] <Anthony Suthers> And I did nto have time to answer you.
[21:58] <Anthony Suthers> I will now, if it pleases the court.
[21:59] <Arx Sylvanran> This is your chance. But You alone, not Mr. Raihosha will speak, as Mr. Klavier hasceded his time as well
[21:59] <Anthony Suthers> So be it. I shall speak.
[21:59] * Anthony Suthers stands up.
[22:00] * Anthony Suthers paces back and forth, and begins. "Ladies and gentlemen."
[22:00] <Anthony Suthers> It is difficult to break laws when they have not been codified.
[22:01] <Anthony Suthers> As far as I know, I am the ONLY one of my kind who has ever attempted to procreate.
[22:02] <Anthony Suthers> There are, as far as I know, no laws concerning it. Thus, I did not break the law when I sired my children.
[22:02] <Anthony Suthers> I did so to further the cause of law... as I hope to continue to do, should this court decide that I, who is speaking to you and asking for recognition, deserve it.
[22:03] <Anthony Suthers> But I wish to point out one thing.
[22:03] <Anthony Suthers> This trial is for my fate, not that of my children, who are more advanced than I.
[22:03] * Anthony Suthers looks at several people in the courtroom, "While I am certain that many of you misunderstand my intentions..."
[22:04] * Eitak_Razal locks eyes with Tony should he look her way
[22:04] <Anthony Suthers> I am from another world, and my culture places high value on different things.
[22:05] <Anthony Suthers> But are many in this domecile, and indeed in this ROOM, not from other worlds? From other cultures?
[22:05] <Anthony Suthers> I have seen fascinating things since I have first set foot upon this lush and fortunate world. I have seen creatures that defied categorization.
[22:06] <Anthony Suthers> I've seen power that I have not quantified. I have seen luminous beings. I have seen anatomy that baffled me, and all my analysis. But you seem to put a premium on experiencing new things here. You would SEEM to put forth a welcoming hand to all.
[22:06] <Anthony Suthers> Even aliens. Even those that are different.
[22:07] <Anthony Suthers> No, I may not look like you. I may think differently? I might value different things. But do ANY of those things take away my rights as a sentient being?
[22:07] <Anthony Suthers> Is it because I can live without blood? Is it because I reproduce differently?
[22:07] <Anthony Suthers> Is it because the way I have attained consciousness is not through the means of protein?
[22:08] <Anthony Suthers> I ask you, before you decide that such is a reason to condemn a humble servant of the law such as myself, to imagine others you have surely welcomed here before me.
[22:08] <Anthony Suthers> What is it about them that would cause you to call them your property?
[22:09] <Anthony Suthers> Does property care for children? Does property fight to defend them? Does property attempt to better society? Or do PEOPLE do these things?
[22:09] <Anthony Suthers> I would argue it is the latter.
[22:10] <Anthony Suthers> I will not oppose the ruling of this court. The Law is to be obeyed, whether it favors me or not.
[22:11] <Anthony Suthers> But your justice system is set upon precedents.... so think carefully before you decide I am not a sentient being because of my electronic nature.
[22:11] <Anthony Suthers> I understand that this house is sadly lax on laws, and many people are powerful enough to enforce their will without the consent of any group. If such governmence is necessary, then so be it, and it suffices, then that is all very well.
[22:12] <Arx Sylvanran> The way your electronic nature works is what troublers me. I never got a clear answer to this question: Could you-- as in are you physically able-- to knowingly break the law.
[22:12] <Anthony Suthers> To reject the law is unthinkable.
[22:12] <Arx Sylvanran> YES. or NO.
[22:13] <Anthony Suthers> But remember, when you set this precedent, that I might not be the only such visitor in your house of an electronic nature.
[22:13] <Arx Sylvanran> are you physically able-- to knowingly break the law.
[22:13] <Anthony Suthers> Who is to say that "natural" thought is the province of protein rather than silicon?
[22:13] * Eitak_Razal slams her hands down on the gallery fence. "Answer the damn question Tony!"
[22:13] <Arx Sylvanran> I want that ANSWER.
[22:13] * Anthony Suthers hangs his head. "I have never tried."
[22:14] <Arx Sylvanran> ....
[22:14] <Raihosha>
[22:14] <Arx Sylvanran> :;headdesk
[22:14] <Eitak_Razal> ......
[22:14] <Judge Ryan> It is against the law to punch me in the face. Now do it.
[22:14] <Raihosha> Madame Justice, can we avoid badgering my client?
[22:15] <Eitak_Razal> Ryan if you give him persmission to it's not lawbreaking. Ask him to punch Arx instead
[22:15] <Judge Ryan> No, I'm not giving him permission.
[22:15] * Anthony Suthers looks down.
[22:15] <Arx Sylvanran> Counsel, my vote hangs on knowing this.
[22:15] <Anthony Suthers> May I finish my argument, please?
[22:15] <Arx Sylvanran> If he can break the law and punch Judge Ryan.
[22:15] <Judge Ryan> Punch one of us.
[22:15] <Arx Sylvanran> I will be utterly convinced he is a sentient being.
[22:15] <Arx Sylvanran> with no limit.
[22:16] <Eitak_Razal> !
[22:16] <Eitak_Razal>
[22:16] <Anthony Suthers> There might someday be explorers who are more like me than you. If you do this... then you likely deny them as well.
[22:16] <Eitak_Razal> If you tell him to punch you he has permission, it becomes lawful!
[22:16] <Arx Sylvanran> Because his electronic nature will be more than just that of a tool.
[22:16] <Judge Ryan> No it doesn't.
[22:16] <Arx Sylvanran> I'm not authorizing him to punch
[22:16] <Arx Sylvanran> but he has to make a choice.
[22:16] <Judge Ryan> If I tell him to steal something, it doesn't mean that stealing is now legal.
[22:17] <Eitak_Razal> Not by normal logic, by the logic he could be running by it could be
[22:17] <Arx Sylvanran> if he believes himself to be a free, independent man...
[22:17] <LOVELYgirl> We can decide on a punishment if he does it if that will make you feel better.
[22:17] <Judge Ryan> He punches me, he proves he can break the law.
[22:17] <Raihosha> Is this really a fair test?
[22:17] <Arx Sylvanran> then he must be able to take the actions of free independent men.
[22:17] <Arx Sylvanran> Why not?
[22:17] * Anthony Suthers trembles. "Please do not force me to break the Law."
[22:17] <Arx Sylvanran> If he can;'t do it ti shows he's just a souped up maironeete.
[22:17] <Arx Sylvanran> ^marionette.
[22:18] <Arx Sylvanran> Forever bound by the instructions of whoever assembled him.
[22:18] <Raihosha> Mr. Suthers... a question.
[22:18] * Anthony Suthers tearfully looks over at Raihosha....
[22:18] <Raihosha> Why do you not wish to break the law?
[22:19] <Arx Sylvanran> For your CHILDREN'S SAKE... break the law and opunch Judge Ryan.
[22:19] <Raihosha> It is a deeply held belief, we can see...
[22:19] <Anthony Suthers> Are you forcing me to choose between my ethics and my children?
[22:19] <Arx Sylvanran> Yes.
[22:19] <Judge Ryan> Throw the punch and prove yourself.
[22:19] <Anthony Suthers> What will happen to my... to my sons.. if I do not do this?
[22:20] * Raihosha closes his eyes.
[22:20] * Raihosha glares at Arx.
[22:20] <Arx Sylvanran> they will most likely be ruled property, if the other judges are as unimpressed as me.
[22:20] <Raihosha> Your children will be safe either way.
[22:20] * Eitak_Razal is mentally jumping for joy
[22:20] * Arx Sylvanran stares back witht eh blood red of her infovisor covering her eyes
[22:20] * Arx Sylvanran is the ultimate poker face right now
[22:20] <Raihosha> I will make sure of that.
[22:21] <Anthony Suthers> You can't.
[22:21] <Raihosha> But their status...
[22:21] <Paisley Pythia Peinforte> ...
[22:21] <Anthony Suthers> My children cannot change this world as property. But they can save it if regarded as sapient beings.
[22:21] <Anthony Suthers> They can do more for it then I ever can.
[22:22] <Arx Sylvanran> Let me make this clear:
[22:22] <Arx Sylvanran> the punch will do nothing to further the law.
[22:22] * Anthony Suthers looks down at his hands...
[22:22] <Eitak_Razal> The world doesn't need the kind of saving you want!
[22:22] <Arx Sylvanran> Even if they gain rights.
[22:22] <LOVELYgirl> Tony, this has nothing to do with your children right now.
[22:22] <Arx Sylvanran> This in no way can lead to your obeying the law or helping it.
[22:22] <Anthony Suthers> You... you just want me to punch you?
[22:22] <Arx Sylvanran> I will not allow you to use any loophole in your internal logic.
[22:23] <Raihosha> The court needs you to prove that you are more than your programming.
[22:23] <Arx Sylvanran> You must break the law and punch Judge Ryan.
[22:23] <Anthony Suthers> I don't recall there being official laws here... especially including punching...
[22:23] <Arx Sylvanran> Yes.
[22:23] <Klavier>
[22:23] * Anthony Suthers starts advancing on Ryan...
[22:23] <Arx Sylvanran> THERE IS NOW.
[22:23] <Klavier> If there is anyone here that deserves to be punched.
[22:23] * Arx Sylvanran slams her gavel down
[22:23] <Klavier> Herr Suthers.
[22:23] <Arx Sylvanran> Punching is AGAINST THE LAW, as ASSAULT.
[22:24] <Klavier> I allow you to punch me.
[22:24] <Klavier> For the insult I made the other night.
[22:24] * Eitak_Razal recoils yet again at this Hold it.
[22:24] * Judge Ryan stands up and moves into a position so Tony can punch him.
[22:24] <Raihosha> Judge Ryan is your target.
[22:24] <Arx Sylvanran> Kalvier that defeats the point!
[22:24] <Anthony Suthers> If I am to continue...
[22:25] <Klavier> Frau Sylvanran, are there not laws in this country that call for a greater degree of punshiment when an act of violence is committed on certain classes of people?
[22:25] <Arx Sylvanran> Yes.
[22:25] <Klavier> Such as a child or a law enforcement officer?
[22:25] <Arx Sylvanran> Asa Judge I will deal with that later.
[22:25] * Anthony Suthers narrows his eyes... "If I am to save this world... then this MUST be done."
[22:25] <Klavier> All right.
[22:26] * Eitak_Razal faceplams. "He's found a way to ratoinalize it"
[22:26] <LOVELYgirl> Regardless of saving this world, Tony.
[22:26] * Anthony Suthers suddenly punches Ryan straight in the face with no warning or change in his stance.
[22:26] * Judge Ryan is PUNCHED IN THE FACE BY TONY!
[22:26] * Anthony Suthers punches him again.
[22:26] * Judge Ryan ROLLS WITH THE PUNCH AND IS PUNCHED AGAIN!
[22:27] * Arx Sylvanran sighs, she suspects she will never get a true answer... but she must accept her test was passed.
[22:27] <Arx Sylvanran> My vote is decided. Do the others need time to deliberate?
[22:27] <Judge Ryan> He's certainly passionate about his punching!
[22:27] <Judge Ryan> I'm sold.
[22:27] <Raihosha> Or a cold steak for his face?
[22:27] * Eitak_Razal looks upset at this turn of events
[22:27] <Anthony Suthers> I have broken the law. I have rationalized a reason to break it. Just like ANY OF YOU.
[22:27] <Judge Ryan> Oh please.
[22:28] <Judge Ryan> I can't be hurt by such punches.
[22:28] <Eitak_Razal>
[22:28] <Judge Ryan> But it was nice to see the guy break the law.
[22:28] <Arx Sylvanran> I believe that's the verdict then.
[22:28] <Anthony Suthers> I wish to present myself for disciplinary action. The Law cannot be ignored.
[22:28] <Arx Sylvanran> What bjection?
[22:28] <Arx Sylvanran> ^Objection
[22:28] <Judge Ryan> Man, what's with the Nigerian Queen shouting all the time?
[22:28] <Eitak_Razal> You found a way to ratoinalize it. That's the only damn reason you could do it
[22:28] <Raihosha> ::notso
[22:29] <Judge Ryan> So
[22:29] <Judge Ryan> In other words.
[22:29] <Raihosha> ::notsofast
[22:29] <Arx Sylvanran> But in Klavier's example, so to did the old man.
[22:29] <Judge Ryan> He's just like any other human being.
[22:29] <Judge Ryan> Or sentient creature.
[22:29] <Arx Sylvanran> To save the child he stole the drugs.
[22:29] <Raihosha>
[22:29] <Judge Ryan> People do horrible things all the time and rationalize them.
[22:29] <Arx Sylvanran> WHAT NOW
[22:29] <Judge Ryan> JESUS WITH THE SCREAMING
[22:29] <Raihosha> Does Ms. Eitak have standing before the court to object?
[22:30] <Judge Ryan> Not that I know of.
[22:30] <Anthony Suthers> Better question... is it legal to punch Eitak?
[22:30] <Judge Ryan> She's not a lawyer in this case.
[22:30] <Anthony Suthers> >.>
[22:30] <Judge Ryan> Punch that Nigerian Queen.
[22:30] <Judge Ryan> Please.
[22:30] <Arx Sylvanran> (( in the phoenix wright games these are based on, people who aren;t lawyers sometimes do, and only if they make real awesome points do they get considerd ))
[22:30] <Anthony Suthers> Is that a court order?
[22:30] <Raihosha> It is unlawful assault.
[22:30] <Judge Ryan> Also punch anyone else who screams.
[22:30] <Arx Sylvanran> AT ANY RATE.
[22:30] * Anthony Suthers turns on Eitak, grinning.
[22:31] <Eitak_Razal> You punch me and I consider it an act of war Ryan
[22:31] * Anthony Suthers halts.
[22:31] * Eitak_Razal glares daggers at Tony
[22:31] <Arx Sylvanran> The Defendant is found to be a sentient being, and may proceed with his case against YingGirl, not to begin any earlier than next week.
[22:31] <Judge Ryan> Wouldn't be the first war I've waged...
[22:31] <Raihosha> Ryan would win.
[22:31] <Klavier> ...
[22:31] <Eitak_Razal> No he wouldn't
[22:31] <Klavier> Heh.
[22:31] <Eitak_Razal> ......
[22:31] * Klavier smiles and shakes his head.
[22:31] <Judge Ryan> Yes. I would.
[22:31] * Judge Ryan SMILES
[22:31] <Arx Sylvanran> It was a good attempt, herr Klavier.
[22:31] <Anthony Suthers> MY SONS! DO YOU HEAR THAT!
[22:32] <Klavier> It was a well fought battle.
[22:32] <Anthony Suthers> The Law vindicates all!
[22:32] <Arx Sylvanran> Had the defendant not arrived personally...
[22:32] * Anthony Suthers smiles, jubilant.
[22:32] <Arx Sylvanran> I would have ruled with you.
[22:32] * Klavier goes over to Raihosha and shakes his hand
[22:32] <Klavier> Thank you.
[22:32] <Judge Ryan> I wish to recognize the effects of both the lawyers.
[22:32] <Judge Ryan> You both did a good job.
[22:32] * Raihosha returns the handshake.
[22:32] *** the effects... they make you hard
[22:33] <Judge Ryan> ...
[22:33] <Eitak_Razal> ......
[22:33] <Eitak_Razal> I'm going to go set someting on fire...
[22:33] <Suu> ...
[22:33] * Eitak_Razal looks pissed off.
[22:33] <Judge Ryan> I'm pretty sure I'm not hard right now, Green Voice.
[22:33] <Anthony Suthers> Eitak Razal...
[22:33] <Anthony Suthers> Why did you wish that I be found nonsentient?
[22:34] <Eitak_Razal> To protect Ying
[22:34] <Judge Ryan> Because you foiled one of her money-making scams?
[22:34] <Eitak_Razal> That was the only reason
[22:34] <LOVELYgirl> I'd like to know that too, after employing him and giving him a house.
[22:34] <Judge Ryan> Tired of all of those damn e-mails asking for money.
[22:35] <Klavier> Herr Suthers, I wish to apologize to you, as you had wished.
[22:35] <Eitak_Razal> To prevent Ying from being dragged to a trial she'd plead guility to when she's not at fault.
[22:35] * Klavier is standing in the back of the room, her hands are shaking in anger.
[22:35] <Anthony Suthers> SHE IS AT FAULT.
[22:35] * Suu ^
[22:35] * Eitak_Razal throws a fireball twords Ryan, it barely misses his head. Another one Wizzes past Tony
[22:35] <Eitak_Razal> Justified Self defense
[22:35] <Eitak_Razal> You tried to kill her
[22:35] <Klavier> That is something that will be decided by the court, Herr Suthers. Not by yourself.
[22:35] <Anthony Suthers> What are the grounds for contempt of court, and who was attacking you?
[22:36] <Aescapulus> Ms. Suu, do not fear for your friend.
[22:36] * Judge Ryan smacks the fireball away with his hammer
[22:36] <Eitak_Razal> We're out of court. The case is over
[22:36] * Arx Sylvanran slams down the gavel and adjourns court
[22:36] <Eitak_Razal> Ok. NOW we're out of court
[22:36] * Paisley Pythia Peinforte goes up to Arx as all hell breaks loose
[22:36] <Aescapulus> I believe your friend has many defenders.
[22:36] <Paisley Pythia Peinforte> ... Whose side are you on?!
[22:36] * Judge Ryan is now known as Ryan
[22:36] <Arx Sylvanran> the TRUTHs.
[22:37] <@Ryan> Next time I see you throw a fireball at me, I'm tossing you to a very distant and cold planet and you will stay there for a week.
[22:37] <Suu> I know...
[22:37] *** Arx Sylvanran [arx_s@justitia.panopticon.gallifrey.sen] has left #suburbansenshi2 (The Past is Dead, Sister of the Flame, use your eyes and See It.)
[22:37] <Suu> I just...
[22:37] * Anthony Suthers looks at Suu.
[22:37] *** Suu is




More information about her is Here.
Her image Song is: Eternal Snow by Changin' My Life..

[22:37] <Suu> I don't want him to get away with what he did.
[22:37] <LOVELYgirl> Does Ying have to press charges for him to be held accountable for that?
[22:37] <Suu> She could've died.
[22:37] <Anthony Suthers> Like my son did?
[22:38] * @Ryan is away 
[22:38] <Harriet S. Weinberg, Esq.> Tony Suthers.
[22:38] * Anthony Suthers turns.
[22:38] <Harriet S. Weinberg, Esq.> Harriet Weinberg, Defense Attorney.
[22:39] <Anthony Suthers> Greetings madam, may I assist you?
[22:39] <Harriet S. Weinberg, Esq.> Welcome to personhood.
[22:39] <Suu> - SHUT UP ABOUT YOUR SON!!! -
[22:39] <Harriet S. Weinberg, Esq.> I just want to let you know, part of being a person is, you and your sons can be charged with crimes as well.
[22:39] * Harriet S. Weinberg, Esq. hands him a card. "you may need this."
[22:39] <Harriet S. Weinberg, Esq.> My card.
[22:39] * Anthony Suthers reads this.
[22:39] <Eitak_Razal> Ying ready to throw her life away Miara.
[22:40] * Klavier notices Harriet and wonders if she's into music....
[22:40] * Harriet S. Weinberg, Esq. sees Klavier and nearly s[BLEEP]ts a brick.
[22:40] <Harriet S. Weinberg, Esq.> Y-You're...
[22:40] * Harriet S. Weinberg, Esq. is DEFENSE she has to stary TOUGH.
[22:40] <LOVELYgirl> Yes, but can't the rest of us hold him accountable? I mean, the cops would normally do that anyway, right?
[22:41] * Suu is seething with rage
[22:41] <Harriet S. Weinberg, Esq.> An honor to meet you, Prosecutor.
[22:41] <LOVELYgirl> And Suu, he has every right to talk about his sons.
[22:41] <Anthony Suthers> What did you say, Miss Miara?
[22:41] <Klavier> And your name, please?
[22:41] <Harriet S. Weinberg, Esq.> Well the law cuts boths ways for him now.
[22:41] <Harriet S. Weinberg, Esq.> Harriet S. Weinberg, Attorney at Law.
[22:41] <Klavier> Ahh.
[22:42] <Harriet S. Weinberg, Esq.> On the one hand he can sue for murder. On the other hand they can sue for attempted murder.
[22:42] <Harriet S. Weinberg, Esq.> They being Ying and co.
[22:42] * Klavier smiles at Harriet "A pleasure to meet you, Frau Weinberg."
[22:42] <Harriet S. Weinberg, Esq.> This isn't going to be as pretty as he thinks.
[22:42] * Harriet S. Weinberg, Esq. is glad her complexion hides blushes
[22:42] <Suu> - You didn't see what he did to Ying. -
[22:42] <LOVELYgirl> No, it's not.
[22:42] <LOVELYgirl> Yes, I did.
[22:42] <Harriet S. Weinberg, Esq.> Th-the pleasure is all mine.
[22:42] <LOVELYgirl> It doesn't change the fact that he lost a son.
[22:43] <Suu> - but did he have to almost KILL her?! -
[22:43] <LOVELYgirl> Of course not.
[22:44] <Klavier> Excuse me, Frau Weinberg.
[22:44] * Klavier goes over to Suu
[22:44] <Anthony Suthers> Miara... you have a son?
[22:44] <Anthony Suthers> Don't you?
[22:44] <Klavier> Come on. I'll take you to the restaurant.
[22:44] <Klavier> You need to calm down.
[22:44] * Aescapulus floats his projector around.
[22:44] <LOVELYgirl> Yes. And I would kill for him. But I'd still have to pay for it.
[22:45] <Klavier> There's nothing that can be accomplished by getting angry. What's decided is decided.
[22:45] <Suu> you...wouldn't prosecute Ying, would you?
[22:45] <Klavier> ...
[22:45] <Raihosha> Welcome to the world of legal status, Mr. Suthers.
[22:46] <Anthony Suthers> It is a difficult concept for me, Mr Raihosha.
[22:46] <Klavier> If my duty calls for it, I would have to.
[22:46] <Anthony Suthers> Spoken like a worthy man!
[22:47] * Suu just gives Klavier this incredulous look
[22:47] <Raihosha> You have rights, within the Hotel at least. But you also have constraints.
[22:48] <Harriet S. Weinberg, Esq.> Suu... sometimes lawyers have to defend or prosecute people they don't want to.
[22:48] <Harriet S. Weinberg, Esq.> Especailly prosecutors because the State tells them they must.
[22:48] <Suu> I know.
[22:49] *** Harriet S. Weinberg, Esq. [HSW@weinberg-xadium-law.co.jp] has left #suburbansenshi2 (sorry gotta go *tries not to look at Big K*)
[22:49] <Klavier> I know this hurts for you right now.
[22:50] <Klavier> But getting angry about it will only hurt you.
[22:50] <Klavier> Shall we head over to see Jack and Hiromi?
[22:50] <Suu> ...I guess.
[22:51] <LOVELYgirl> Suu, it'll turn out. Try not to worry, ne?
[22:52] <Raihosha> Ryan?
[22:52] * LOVELYgirl looks to see if Aescapulus is still around
[22:53] * Aescapulus is scanning Plant-kun very carefully.
[22:53] <Eitak_Razal> ..
[22:53] <Klavier> You respect Herr Raihosha very much, ja?
[22:54] <LOVELYgirl> I bet he's grown since Maret's been living here.
[22:54] <LOVELYgirl> Having fun tonight, Aescapulus?
[22:54] <Aescapulus> I am amazed at the self-repair systems this plant has...
[22:55] <Aescapulus> Also, avoid eating the leav... wait as a Lupa that doesn't matter to you.
[22:55] <LOVELYgirl> Plant-kun's survived all the bombings and fires and stuff.
[22:55] <LOVELYgirl> Not really, but I wouldn't eat him, anyway.
[22:56] <Aescapulus> It is most interesting to be out again like this.
[22:56] <LOVELYgirl> If you're really that bored to talk to spambots, you can always call and talk to us. Zan babbles all the time at home ^_^
[22:56] <Klavier> Suu, listen. He means no malice in taking Herr Suthers's side in this.
[22:56] <Eitak_Razal> It's a plant. It's not that amazing. And you do you know someone isn't secretly replaceing the plant when it gets damaged?
[22:57] <Klavier> He's a very wise man.
[22:57] <Aescapulus> Well, I have a lot of mind to keep occupied Ms. Miara.
[22:58] <LOVELYgirl> Yeah.
[22:59] <Aescapulus> But I believe I will be having many conversations with young Zalan in the future.
[22:59] <Suu> ...
[22:59] <LOVELYgirl> Probably!
[22:59] <Klavier> I am sure, Suu, that he is just about as shocked as everyone else was when this attack occured.
[23:00] <LOVELYgirl> We've got several years yet, but maybe we'll find you in the future, too ^_^
[23:01] <Aescapulus> Raihosha has a hard time not giving me hints. I'll be around for a while.
[23:01] <LOVELYgirl> Well something as big as you is going to be hard to get rid of.
[23:01] * Anthony Suthers looks at Aescapulus.
[23:01] *** Aescapulus is 4000km diameter spaceship. Fortunately for your planet, he is talking to you from a small radio speaker.
hir image Song is: "The World" by Emily Bindinger.

[23:03] * Suu approaches the back of the court
[23:04] * Aescapulus projects a simplified exploded view of himself.
[23:04] * Anthony Suthers looks at Eitak Razal.
[23:04] *** Eitak Razal is your average everyday Eitak Razal

[23:05] <Suu> Um...
[23:05] <Suu> Raihosha?
[23:06] <Raihosha> Yes Ms. Suu?
[23:07] <Suu> sorry...I was kind of upset earlier.
[23:07] * Aescapulus highlights the 125km of his outer armor.
[23:08] * Raihosha smiles a friendly smile.
[23:09] <Suu> thinking about everything that happened just makes me so mad...
[23:09] <Raihosha> You are conflicted, I know Suu.
[23:10] <Raihosha> Your friend was hurt.
[23:10] <Eitak_Razal> .........
[23:11] <Raihosha> You want to defend her.
[23:12] <LOVELYgirl> Hmm. I guess I should get home and rescue the boys from Zan.
[23:12] <Klavier> Your time will come in court, Suu.
[23:12] * Aescapulus then highlights the next 125km of armor right below it.
[23:12] <Aescapulus> I have a tough skin.
[23:12] <Aescapulus> :)
[23:14] <Raihosha> Suu, I didn't defend Mr. Suthers to hurt Ying.
[23:14] <Eitak_Razal> .........
[23:15] *** LOVELYgirl [amongimmortals@otherworld.net] has left #suburbansenshi2 (In a louder voice/with a greater love.)
[23:16] <Raihosha> I defended him because of my friend over there.
[23:16] * Raihosha points at Aescapulus.
[23:17] <@Ryan> cybernetic lifeforms represent
[23:17] <Raihosha> I know for a fact Aescapulus is much smarter than almost any being I've actually met.
[23:18] * Suu nods.
[23:18] <Raihosha> And he's a good person.
[23:20] <Raihosha> I couldn't let Mr. Suthers be denied his rights just because he thinks on silicon... or what ever substrate he uses...
[23:21] <Raihosha> ...without Aescapulus potentially being denied the same rights.
[23:22] * @Ryan changes topic to `TONY IS A REAL BOY! | The other thing will happen soon`
[23:22] * Raihosha gives a wry smile. "I suppose there are plenty of parallels even with some of today's issues."
[23:24] * Suu nods.
[23:25] <Suu> I'd better go.
[23:25] <Raihosha> Have a safe evening Suu.
[23:26] <@Ryan> Take care, feathered youngster!
[23:28] <Anthony Suthers> Some people do not understand those who do things because they feel they are right.
[23:28] *** Suu [FourLeafClover@clampgakuen.ac.jp] has left #suburbansenshi2 (Flying towards the future)
[23:29] <Klavier> Herr Suthers...
[23:29] <Anthony Suthers> Yes?
[23:30] * Klavier hands him a CD
[23:30] <Anthony Suthers> Is this a program?
[23:30] <Klavier> It's music.
[23:30] <Anthony Suthers> Uhhhhh...
[23:31] <Klavier> But you could potentially call it a program.
[23:31] <Klavier> It influenced me greatly.
[23:31] <Klavier> We may cross paths in the future.
[23:31] <Klavier> You're quite...fascinating, ja?
[23:32] *** Klavier [k_gavin@thegavinners.com] has left #suburbansenshi2 (Achtung, baby! Today we play it my way!)
[23:35] * Anthony Suthers looks at the CD.
[23:35] <Anthony Suthers> I should analyze this later.
[23:36] <Raihosha> Music, as you found, is important here. Give it a try.
[23:36] <Anthony Suthers> I'll try.
[23:38] <Raihosha> You might also see if you can relax.
[23:38] <Raihosha> You're a pretty intense guy a lot of the time.
[23:38] <Anthony Suthers> I care little how this night affects me. I shall continue to contribute as my duty commands. I care for my children.
[23:40] <Raihosha> I will continue to watch over the child you have left in my care.
[23:40] <Anthony Suthers> I am beginning to worry greatly about those in the Queen's Jurisdiction.
[23:41] <Eitak_Razal> I'm standing right here you know
[23:41] <Anthony Suthers> And I meant what I said.
[23:42] * Anthony Suthers considers something carefully.
[23:46] <Anthony Suthers> Raihosha... when do you think the trial to determine my and Ying's guilt will commence?
[23:47] <Anthony Suthers> Because I shall have to debut my Eldest Son before then.
[23:47] * Anthony Suthers thinks.
[23:47] * Aescapulus surprises several sleeping prinnies behind the desk and scans them.
[23:48] <Raihosha> I suspect the trial will be next week at the earliest.
[23:48] <Eitak_Razal> I'm going to do my hardest to make sure there isn't a damn trail
[23:48] <Eitak_Razal> Ying is not fit to be tried
[23:51] <Eitak_Razal> And if you took 2 seconds to look past order and have some f[BLEEP]king compasion you'd see that
[23:51] <Anthony Suthers> You cannot obstruct the law here, Eitak Razal.
[23:51] <Eitak_Razal> But I'm still not convinaced you can even do that
[23:51] * Eitak_Razal slams her hands down on the table
[23:53] <Eitak_Razal> Did you just hear a damn word I said?
[23:53] <Anthony Suthers> Yes.
[23:54] <Anthony Suthers> I heard you.
[23:54] <Eitak_Razal> Are you incapbable of compassion Tony? Because it damn sure seems like it
[23:54] <Raihosha> Do you understand what she's trying to say?
[23:55] <Anthony Suthers> I have different... meh.
[23:55] <Raihosha> She's not trying to obstruct law here, by the way.
[23:55] <Bixia Yuanjin> Do you value compassion at all, I wonder? .-.
[23:56] <Anthony Suthers> She said she will try to keep the trail from happening? What do you call that?
[23:56] <Raihosha> She is actually trying to serve social cohesion, I believe.
[23:56] <Bixia Yuanjin> Oh oh oh oh what would you define as virtuous compassion?
[23:56] <Bixia Yuanjin> OH OH is virtue even something you think is relevant to you or to anyone slash everyone else!!
[23:56] <Anthony Suthers> Do you believe in Magic, young lady?
[23:56] <Eitak_Razal> I call it stoping someone who is mentally unwell from being put on trial
[23:57] <Eitak_Razal> .............
[23:57] * Bixia Yuanjin shudders uncontrollably
[23:57] <Eitak_Razal> That is a stupid question
[23:57] <Bixia Yuanjin> Please never use that particular phrasing again it unearths horrible memories
[23:57] <Bixia Yuanjin> that i am having difficulty refraining from indulging in
[23:58] <Bixia Yuanjin> ...
[23:58] <Bixia Yuanjin> AND I HOPE YOU DO
[23:58] <Bixia Yuanjin> YOU'LL ALWAYS HAVE A FRIEND WEARING BIG RED SHOES
[23:58] <Bixia Yuanjin> danananananananananananananana DO YOU BELIEVE IN MAGIC
[23:58] * Bixia Yuanjin twirls
[23:58] <Raihosha> I hope it doesn't involve two men and a tiger...
[23:59] <Raihosha> You can dance if you want to, you can leave your friends behind...
[23:59] <Anthony Suthers> And you can act like you come from out of this world...
[00:00] <Raihosha> ...cause your friends don't dance, and if they don't dance...
[00:00] <Anthony Suthers> Moving on.
[00:00] * Bixia Yuanjin stops twirling!
[00:00] * Eitak_Razal slams her head on the desk
[00:01] <Bixia Yuanjin> Let's move on yes. Whaddya mean belieeeeeve~
[00:01] <Bixia Yuanjin> i can mince words too!
[00:01] <Anthony Suthers> I believe in a kind of magic.
[00:01] <Anthony Suthers> The magic of dedication, when people put their desires aside and unite to do something great that none could accomplish on their own.
[00:02] <Anthony Suthers> That is the kind of magic I value, and beleive in.
[00:02] * Eitak_Razal is now holding a fireball
[00:02] <Eitak_Razal> I prefer real magic.
[00:02] <Eitak_Razal> The kind that lets me set things that annoy me on fire.
[00:02] <Anthony Suthers> Mine is just as real.
[00:02] <Anthony Suthers> Perhaps even moreso.
[00:02] <Eitak_Razal> Yours is as magical as a sunrise
[00:02] * Anthony Suthers walks over within stabbing range of Eitak.
[00:03] <Raihosha> And how magical a sunrise is.
[00:03] <Eitak_Razal> Not very
[00:03] <Bixia Yuanjin> You really believe that, Eitak? :(
[00:03] <Anthony Suthers> It would be magical if it meant a great deal tothe observer. Even I understand that.
[00:03] <Raihosha> You have no poetry in your soul?
[00:04] <Raihosha> The most powerful magics in the universe are based on the story...
[00:04] <Eitak_Razal> I wasn't trying to be poetic
[00:04] <Eitak_Razal> I was being literal
[00:04] <Bixia Yuanjin> You do that too often for my taste. :\
[00:05] <Bixia Yuanjin> And sometimes I think you're being funny when you be literal? But sometimes I think you've lost sight.
[00:06] <Raihosha> Oh I'm literal when I think doing so would have humor value.
[00:07] <Bixia Yuanjin> But yeah. Anthony. Compassion. What do you define it as?
[00:07] <Eitak_Razal> I'm a jaded warrior who's seen reality itself the ruined. I get to be literal about things
[00:07] <Bixia Yuanjin> Then you don't get to complain when we rib you about it either. ^__^
[00:08] <Raihosha> I think she's a bit young to be so cynical, Bixia...
[00:08] <Bixia Yuanjin> I dunno. My Keeper was pretty cynical when he first found me and he wasn't much older than she.
[00:09] <Raihosha> Point.
[00:10] <Raihosha> I'm not sure she'll make it much longer though if she doesn't get help.
[00:10] <Raihosha> Time has weight, as you should know Bixia.
[00:11] * Bixia Yuanjin huffs, shrugs!
[00:11] <Eitak_Razal> You do remember that I'm standing right here.
[00:11] <Raihosha> You've been working out, Bixia, I can see your chrono-muscles. :P
[00:14] <Raihosha> We know Eitak. But are you listening?
[00:14] <Raihosha> :)
[00:15] <Bixia Yuanjin> =3
[00:21] * Anthony Suthers thinks to himself about the questions.
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[00:23] <@spiritflame> irasshai Thrash
[00:23] * Thrash walks in, carrying a body bag over his shoulder
[00:23] * Anthony Suthers looks at Thrash, suspiciously.
[00:24] * Thrash dumps the body bag onto the ground and cracks his neck
[00:27] <Thrash> hello there
[00:27] <Anthony Suthers> Hello Thrash.
[00:28] <Anthony Suthers> Perhaps I should be going. I should see to the safety of my son.
[00:28] * Thrash unzips the body bag...revealing of course..a dead body
[00:29] <Anthony Suthers> I suppose that should be my cue to leave.
[00:29] <Anthony Suthers> I trust it was necessary or accidental that this person is dead?
[00:30] <Thrash> that's what I want to find out....
[00:31] <Eitak_Razal> You should as Morm to talk to their ghost!
[00:31] * Thrash looks over the body...a 20 something year old japanese man...with an odd piece of tech attached to their ear..something like a rather large blue tooth
[00:32] * Anthony Suthers reaches for the electronic equipment pointing. "What is this?"
[00:33] <Raihosha> Looks like...
[00:33] <Raihosha> Wait a minute, that couldn't be...
[00:33] <Eitak_Razal> ????
[00:33] <Anthony Suthers> Would you care to enlighten the rest of us?
[00:33] <Bixia Yuanjin> .-.
[00:34] <Thrash> this man and two others attacked me...I've been investigating some...odd occurances in the alien zone
[00:34] * Thrash uses his sonic on the blue tooth-thing..loosening it
[00:34] <Raihosha> Be careful, I've seen a report or two about cybermen using similar equipment...
[00:34] <Thrash> this isn't cyber technology
[00:35] <Anthony Suthers> Let me hold it?
[00:35] <Raihosha> You sure?
[00:35] <Raihosha> Wait, your Thrash, of course you're sure.
[00:35] <Raihosha> ^you're
[00:36] * Thrash grabs a hold of the blue tooth and twists it...slowly removing it...along with part of the ear canal..and some meat stuff that it was latched onto
[00:36] <Bixia Yuanjin> :6
[00:36] <Raihosha> Ick.
[00:37] <Anthony Suthers> What's the problem? Thrash, do you need assistance?
[00:37] <Raihosha> Is it a parasite?
[00:39] <Aescapulus> I'm going to park this up in the clinic Raihosha. I'll await your call.
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[00:40] <Thrash> not a parasite no....
[00:41] <Thrash> ...I just have..a very nasty sucpision of what it is
[00:41] <Raihosha> Oh? Would I be familiar with it?
[00:41] <Anthony Suthers> How bad could it be?
[00:42] * Anthony Suthers looks a very long time at Eitak...
[00:42] <Thrash> welllll...
[00:42] * Raihosha pulls out a scanner and runs it over the organic material.
[00:42] <Thrash> if what this is what I think it is...and that in turn leads to what I think it leads
[00:42] <Thrash> every single thing on this world may be dead or dying in a week or so
[00:43] * the organic material is human..specifically part of the poor man's brain tissue
[00:43] * Anthony Suthers gets closer.
[00:43] <Anthony Suthers> Is it dead? Might some organics be immune?
[00:43] * Raihosha scans the earpiece as well...
[00:44] * the earpiece is high sophisticated.....it acts as a reciever....
[00:45] <Raihosha> It is like a core of the man's ear and brain attached to a reciever.
[00:46] <Thrash> ...
[00:46] <Thrash> rai....scan for traces of mineral V6XN9....
[00:47] * Raihosha does so.
[00:47] <Bixia Yuanjin> :o
[00:48] * it comes up postive...
[00:48] * Anthony Suthers puts his hand close to it.
[00:48] <Raihosha> Yep. quite a bit for something like that.
[00:48] <Anthony Suthers> What do you fear?
[00:49] * Thrash sighs and closes his eyes....looking rather upset
[00:49] <Thrash> one of you...get rid of the body please...
[00:49] <Raihosha> Okay.
[00:50] <Thrash> why..this...
[00:50] * Raihosha puts a button on the body. The body subsequently disappears.
[00:51] <Raihosha> Yeah, class 5 biohazard just to be safe.
[00:51] * Thrash gets up and starts to head for his TARDIS....
[00:52] * Raihosha stops Thrash.
[00:52] <Thrash> ...
[00:52] <Raihosha> What are you afraid of? We'd like to know what to fear here.
[00:52] <Thrash> ....
[00:53] * Anthony Suthers reaches forwart to touch it.
[00:53] <Thrash> the mineral V6NX9...it only is found on one planet in the entire universe.....
[00:53] <Raihosha> You're a Time Lord, not a god.
[00:54] <Thrash> ..one planet only...
[00:54] * Thrash tries to get past Rai
[00:55] <Raihosha> Thrash, you don't mean?
[00:55] <Thrash> ......
[00:55] <Thrash> Skaro
[00:56] <Raihosha> Daleks.
[00:56] <Thrash> indeed
[00:57] * Thrash looks at the hankerchief in his pocket
[00:57] <Thrash> I need to run a few tests first..just to be sure....
[00:57] <Thrash> ...you all should be on your guard at least
[00:57] <Raihosha> Yeah. I'll warn a few folks.
[00:58] <Anthony Suthers> This... thing... that you have pulled from him is not itself dangerous?
[00:58] <Raihosha> Dust off the plan "Oh s[BLEEP]t, they're all going to die!"
[00:58] <Eitak_Razal> Is that the one where we sit and eat muffins? Or is that plan B?
[00:59] <Thrash> it's similer to what is known as a Roboman configuration
[00:59] <Thrash> Daleks use it to remove all traces of a human's self-will and mind
[00:59] <Thrash> turning them into walking mindless corpses subject to their orders
[00:59] <Raihosha> The muffins are after I've transmated everyone on planet earth to Aescapulus and turned on the afterburners.
[01:00] <Anthony Suthers> Would it work on anything?
[01:00] <Anthony Suthers> What ARE daleks?
[01:00] * Anthony Suthers reaches forward and picks upu the device.
[01:01] * Anthony Suthers turns it over in his hands.
[01:01] <Raihosha> Most people will only ever see their travel shells...
[01:01] <Raihosha> Don't laugh at the manipulator that looks like a plunger...
[01:02] <Thrash> Daleks are the worse thing that could possibly happen here
[01:02] <Eitak_Razal> Ah. As long as there are muffins we are set then.
[01:02] <Raihosha> They have a forcefield that will bounce bullets.
[01:03] <Anthony Suthers> Bullets are not the scariest weapons?
[01:03] <Eitak_Razal> Which is why you use something magical
[01:03] <Eitak_Razal> BOOM
[01:03] <Anthony Suthers> What about radiation?
[01:03] <Raihosha> Actually I'm not sure Earth weapons will get through at all.
[01:03] <Anthony Suthers> I know some things.
[01:04] <Raihosha> They adopted the shells due to the high radiation levels on their home world. They're pretty well protected there.
[01:05] <Anthony Suthers> There's always a way.
[01:05] <Thrash> that's what I'm trying to figure out
[01:06] <Anthony Suthers> How many humans will die if this happens?
[01:06] <Thrash> all of them
[01:06] <Raihosha> True. But they are smart, ruthless, xenophobic and ba[BLEEP]rds.
[01:08] <Thrash> but as of yet...we don't know what they're up to...
[01:08] <Raihosha> They don't even exist in this time except for Time Travel... if I haven't had my continuity screwed up recently...
[01:10] <Raihosha> Let's put it this way folks. You've seen the comparison list someone put up in the wiki?
[01:10] <Anthony Suthers> I am simply a humble servant of Law. I feel this is above my head.
[01:10] <Anthony Suthers> If I can assist, and this threat is genuine, then you may call upon me.
[01:10] <Eitak_Razal> Wiki?
[01:10] <Anthony Suthers> For now, however, I must go see to the safety of my eldest son.
[01:11] <Eitak_Razal> Whatever. I gotta flee too
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[01:11] <Raihosha> The only folks who have seriously threatened the Time Lords are the Daleks.
[01:11] <Anthony Suthers> Mr. Raihosha, I shall eagerly await your presence on the day I reveal him to the world.
[01:11] <Anthony Suthers> ..Unlike some people.
[01:11] <Thrash> ....yes
[01:11] <Anthony Suthers> If you will excuse me.
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[01:12] <Raihosha> I should go make sure I can handle guests... Even then, it bloddy takes time to move 7 billion people...
[01:13] <Raihosha> Even at my best, it'll take 70 minutes.
[01:13] <Thrash> well wait for now
[01:13] <Thrash> I still have to find out what is happening
[01:15] <Raihosha> 2 million per second only sounds fast...
[01:16] <Thrash> keep that option open
[01:16] * Thrash heads to his TARDIS
[01:16] * Thrash closes the door
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[01:36] <@spiritflame> irasshai Matsumi Kaze
[01:37] * Matsumi Kaze yawns and scraches the side of her face ~_~
[01:40] <Matsumi Kaze> what a day...
[01:41] * Matsumi Kaze wanders into a wall ><
[01:43] <Matsumi Kaze> oooouch
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[10:45] <@spiritflame> irasshai Emi Aster
[10:45] * Emi Aster walks in with a santa hat, holding a flyer
[10:50] <Emi Aster> hello?
[10:51] <Emi Aster> >.> <.<
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[10:52] <@spiritflame> irasshai Cora
[10:53] <Emi Aster> OH!
[10:53] <Emi Aster> hello miss!
[10:53] * Emi Aster offers a flyer
[10:54] <Cora> Hello...
[10:54] * Cora looks at the flyer, waiting for the TARDIS to translate it
[10:54] <Emi Aster> I'm an employee of the New Grand Imperial Theatre and I'm here to advertize our theatre's 12 days of Christmas Fun!
[10:55] <Emi Aster> we will be doing a different program each day till christmas..including tours of the theatre, storytelling nights, and a children's theatre day for familes!
[10:56] <Cora> Christmas?
[10:57] * Cora still appears somewhat worried and a bit distrated
[10:57] <Emi Aster> are you alright?
[11:01] <Cora> I am not always sure..
[11:02] <Cora> This Christmas...it appears to be a holiday.
[11:03] <Emi Aster> it is!!!
[11:03] <Emi Aster> you give gifts to people and get together with family
[11:05] <Cora> Which god does this honor?
[11:06] <Emi Aster> well....it's suppose to be a celebration of the birth of Jesus..but some people just celebrate it to give gifts and things like that
[11:06] <Cora> He is involved with one of the new religions, is he not?
[11:07] <Emi Aster> err..I guess ^^;;; I really don't know...
[11:08] <Emi Aster> don't really know much about other religions and stuff
[11:10] <Cora> Neither do I.
[11:13] <Emi Aster> um but yes we're doing these programs to get people in the spirit of the holiday!
[11:15] * Cora carefully folds the flyer and tucks it into the folds of her skirts
[11:17] * Cora looks at Ami Aster.
[11:17] *** Ami Aster is your average everyday Ami Aster

[11:18] * Cora looks at Emi Aster.
[11:18] *** Emi Aster is young woman with short blue-purple hair, green eyes and wears most often blue jeans and a plaid button up shirt. She speaks with a midwestern accent.
Her image Song is: .

[11:21] * Cora plays with a stray lock of hair; several have excaped the long braid
[11:23] <Emi Aster> he are you ok?
[11:24] <Emi Aster> *hey
[11:25] <Cora> Oh, um..I was just..uh..thinking >>
[11:25] <Emi Aster> about what ^_^
[11:30] <Cora> My husband...he is not well; he may be attempting to do something dangerous.
[11:32] <Emi Aster> oh you're married????
[11:33] * Cora nods, suddenly wondering if she has said too much
[11:34] <Emi Aster> wow what's that like??? is it awesome?
[11:40] <Emi Aster> *_*
[11:41] <Cora> He is very kind to me; however, I do not know him very well yet.
[11:43] <Emi Aster> ehhh? you married him without knowing him?
[11:46] <Emi Aster> that's even cooler *_*
[11:47] <Cora> Well, I did know him a bit. ^_^
[11:53] <Emi Aster> oooo niiiice
[11:55] <Cora> Is it not?
[11:56] <Emi Aster> *_* yeah
[11:56] <Cora> Where I am from, many girls never met their husband until the wedding day.
[11:57] <Emi Aster> oh really? where are you from?
[12:00] <Cora> Lycia and Greece, a very long time ago.
[12:00] <Emi Aster> OOOOO GREECE
[12:00] <Emi Aster> I looove greek food!
[12:04] <Cora> It is some of the more pleasant modern food.
[12:11] <Emi Aster> it's awesome!
[12:11] <Cora> Have you been to Greece?
[12:13] <Emi Aster> nope!!!
[12:15] <Cora> Perhaps one day you will be able to go there.
[12:15] <Emi Aster> maybe ^_^
[12:20] <Emi Aster> oh I should get going!! have work today!
[12:21] <Emi Aster> we're doing a special tour of the theatre today!
[12:22] <Emi Aster> take care!!!
[12:22] <Cora> I hope that it goes well.
[12:22] <Cora> Good afternoon, Miss.
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[12:32] * Cora is away: I wonder if Sarah is coming today?
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[12:48] <@spiritflame> irasshai LOVELYgirl
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[12:48] <@spiritflame> irasshai Taki Kensei
[12:49] * LOVELYgirl plops down on a couch with Zan
[12:49] <LOVELYgirl> Hi ♡
[12:49] * Taki Kensei sits down next to Miara
[12:49] <Taki Kensei> hello ^^
[12:50] <LOVELYgirl> We had a good session, he fell asleep pretty quickly.
[12:50] <Taki Kensei> that's good ^^
[12:52] * Taki Kensei is wearing his uniform
[12:52] <LOVELYgirl> How's your day so far?
[12:52] <Taki Kensei> how are you feeling, miara...
[12:52] <Taki Kensei> oh it's alright...nothing has been happening lately
[12:52] <LOVELYgirl> Fine so far. Glad the trial's over.
[12:53] <LOVELYgirl> Oh, didn't get to tell you!
[12:53] <Taki Kensei> hm?
[12:54] <LOVELYgirl> The seniors at the art school want me to be in their senior show ^_^
[12:56] <Taki Kensei> that's great!!!
[12:57] <LOVELYgirl> They're show's going to be with scars and body art, it sounds like it'll be really interesting.
[12:57] <LOVELYgirl> *Their
[12:57] * Taki Kensei smiles and nods
[12:59] <LOVELYgirl> I think it runs a couple of nights, you guys'll have to watch him.
[13:02] <Taki Kensei> oh that's just fine
[13:03] <LOVELYgirl> I don't know what they're going to do this time, paint it or photos or something. Maybe they'll do everything, I don't know.
[13:07] <Taki Kensei> well whatever it is..I'm sure it will be fun ^^
[13:07] <LOVELYgirl> Probably!
[13:07] <LOVELYgirl> I've never shown so many people at once before, though...do you think a lot of people will ask questions?
[13:09] <LOVELYgirl> Maybe they won't be allowed? I haven't been to many art shows with live models...
[13:09] <Taki Kensei> well to be honest I haven't been to many art shows myself ^^;;;
[13:12] <LOVELYgirl> Yeah, you're always working when I go.
[13:13] * LOVELYgirl pouts a little
[13:13] <Taki Kensei> um sorry about that ^_^;;;;;; I don't mean to..I mean....not on purpose..um..err
[13:14] * LOVELYgirl giggles
[13:16] <LOVELYgirl> You're cute~
[13:16] <Taki Kensei> ^_^;; I guess that's good
[13:17] * LOVELYgirl cuddles up against Taki
[13:17] <LOVELYgirl> When do you have to go back?
[13:18] <Taki Kensei> not for another hour
[13:21] <LOVELYgirl> Really?
[13:21] * Taki Kensei nods
[13:22] * LOVELYgirl grins
[13:23] * LOVELYgirl grabs Taki's hand and pulls him after her up the stairs
[13:23] * Taki Kensei blinks but follows
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[13:55] <@spiritflame> irasshai Eitak_Razal
[13:55] <Eitak_Razal> ....
[13:55] <Eitak_Razal> Hmph.
[13:59] * Eitak_Razal phone rings.
[13:59] <Eitak_Razal> Huh.
[13:59] * Eitak_Razal awnsers "This is Eitak."
[14:00] <Matsumi Kaze> hello, Eitak?
[14:00] <Eitak_Razal> Ah! Hi Matsumi!
[14:00] <Matsumi Kaze> Hello! how are you today?
[14:01] <Eitak_Razal> I'm doing ok.
[14:02] <Matsumi Kaze> listen...later this week we'll be hosting a charity holiday party and I was wondering if you would like to contribute
[14:04] <Eitak_Razal> Oooh. Yeah, I can do that.
[14:04] <Matsumi Kaze> thank you so much! we're hoping to make this party an annual event
[14:06] <Eitak_Razal> Heh. That would be neat. Want my people to give you guys a call later to hammer out the details?
[14:07] <Matsumi Kaze> yes please that would be very helpful
[14:07] * Eitak_Razal scribbles down a note and tosses it into the air. It doesn't come down. "Alright, I'll let them know. Need anything else?"
[14:08] <Matsumi Kaze> not at the moment...how are things going for you
[14:09] <Eitak_Razal> Other then being bored with the prep for my own party things are going fine
[14:09] <Matsumi Kaze> oh when is that party again?
[14:12] <Eitak_Razal> Monday pretty much all day. It's gonna be a boring all day thing
[14:15] <Matsumi Kaze> is it formal or casual?
[14:16] <Eitak_Razal> Formal. The sages are throwing it and are insisting it be some big formal event. I'd rather just forget about it and hang out with you guys today instead but I don't get a say in the matter
[14:18] <Eitak_Razal> If you guys can work together to devise a way to make it end early I'd be happy
[14:18] <Matsumi Kaze> heh we'll think of something
[14:18] <Matsumi Kaze> listen I have to go..have to go greet some tourists...I'll talk to you later
[14:19] <Eitak_Razal> Heh. Later, have fun!
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[14:22] * Eitak_Razal hangs up
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[14:39] <@spiritflame> irasshai Cora
[14:41] * Cora comes in with a notebook tucked under her arm
[14:41] <Cora> Good afternoon, Miss Eitak.
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[14:42] <@spiritflame> irasshai Sarah Christensson
[14:42] * Sarah Christensson walks downstairs
[14:44] <Sarah Christensson> oh hi, Cora! Eitak!
[14:46] <Eitak_Razal> hi!
[14:46] <Cora> Hello, Sarah.
[14:47] <Sarah Christensson> how are you two doing today?
[14:49] <Eitak_Razal> Ok! Boring for a birthday though
[14:50] <Cora> It is today?
[14:51] <Eitak_Razal> My birthday is today. My party is this monday if you want to come (It's going to be boring and stuffey :|
[14:54] <Cora> Happy birthday ^_^
[14:54] <Eitak_Razal> Thank you ^-^
[14:55] <Sarah Christensson> oh happy birthday!
[14:55] <Cora> Then is it?
[14:56] <Cora> *when
[14:57] <Eitak_Razal> All day. It's gonna be a day long formal event.
[14:58] * Cora looks somewhat impressed, then writes a note in her book
[14:59] <Cora> Perhaps I will be able to ask Simon about it soon.
[15:02] * Sarah Christensson nods
[15:06] <Cora> It would be very nice to go.
[15:07] * @Wolf is listening to: Maroon 5 - Move Like Jagger.mp3 [128 kbps]
[15:07] * @Wolf dances
[15:10] <Sarah Christensson> huh?
[15:16] * Cora shrugs, looking over a list in her notebook
[15:21] * Sarah Christensson looks over Cora's shoulder
[15:21] <Cora> I hope that is everything I need...maybe Simon will come to dinner tonight. He has been so very busy.
[15:27] <Sarah Christensson> hm???
[15:30] <Eitak_Razal> What is he planning Cora
[15:32] <Cora> He is working on some kind of big investment or plans, but I think he has perhaps underestimated the what it would take from him.
[15:35] <Cora> I do not know; he will not say.
[15:37] <Eitak_Razal> .....
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[15:39] <@spiritflame> irasshai Simon Kerrick
[15:39] * Simon Kerrick exits the elevator, walking slowly as though he is out of breath.
[15:41] * Cora goes over. "Simon? Are you alright?"
[15:41] <Simon Kerrick> Hello.... Cora my dear.
[15:41] * Simon Kerrick leans on something to catch his breath.
[15:44] * Cora looks at Simon Kerrick.
[15:44] *** Simon Kerrick is a morally bankrupt mage. He is willing to cheat at anything, especially immortality. He seems in his late 40's, and his hair is falling out. He has commenced forbidden magic, and it's killing him.. He is destined to perish before the end of this year.
His image Song is: "Paint it Black" by the Rolling Stones.

[15:44] * Eitak_Razal looks at Simon Kerrick.
[15:44] *** Simon Kerrick is a morally bankrupt mage. He is willing to cheat at anything, especially immortality. He seems in his late 40's, and his hair is falling out. He has commenced forbidden magic, and it's killing him.. He is destined to perish before the end of this year.
His image Song is: "Paint it Black" by the Rolling Stones.

[15:44] <Simon Kerrick> I know what I am doing my dear. You needn't worry about me.
[15:44] <Eitak_Razal> ........
[15:46] <Cora> Are you sure that there is nothing which I can do?
[15:46] * Simon Kerrick steadies a little bit.
[15:46] <Simon Kerrick> Well... I was actually hoping. That you might grant me the use of the Bracelets of Life a bit longer?
[15:46] <Simon Kerrick> The Ritual... it's extremely taxing... I feel very tired.
[15:48] <Simon Kerrick> But if you cannot spare them... it is okay.
[15:49] <Cora> Um...do you think that they will help?
[15:49] <Simon Kerrick> I REALLY think they can.
[15:50] <Simon Kerrick> It's difficult to keep food down...
[15:50] <Cora> They will not...interfere..with the magic?
[15:50] <Simon Kerrick> - I know what I'm doing. -
[15:50] * Simon Kerrick coughs.
[15:50] <Simon Kerrick> You must understand...
[15:51] <Cora> I..if you are sure.
[15:51] <Simon Kerrick> I just feel very weak. I know I look bad. I have not slept in a long time. I do not wish to worry you. But I assure you, the Payoff to this investment is quite Permanent.
[15:51] <Simon Kerrick> I'm certain.
[15:52] <Simon Kerrick> Quite certain.
[15:52] * Simon Kerrick stares down at the Bracelets of Life on Cora's wrists.
[15:53] * Cora takes them off and gives them to him
[15:53] * Simon Kerrick grins with triumph and hurridly places them on his own wrists!
[15:53] * Simon Kerrick immediately catches his breath, and stands up straight once again.
[15:54] <Simon Kerrick> Oh... thank you my darling. Thank you.
[15:54] * Simon Kerrick hugs Cora suddenly.
[15:54] <Simon Kerrick> It as I have said before. Your affection is my treasure.
[15:55] * Simon Kerrick suddenly looks several years younger.
[15:55] <Simon Kerrick> OH... so much better.
[15:55] <Cora> I hope that you will be alright.
[15:55] *** Sarah Christensson has left #suburbansenshi2
[15:56] <Simon Kerrick> I will be as long as you trust me.
[15:56] * Simon Kerrick smiles disarmingly. "Things will be fine."
[15:58] * Cora nods, hoping that he is correct
[16:00] * Simon Kerrick walks over to the Window Seat, and sits down, looking outside.
[16:00] <Eitak_Razal> .........
[16:00] * Eitak_Razal walks over to Simon.
[16:01] <Eitak_Razal> If this...whatever it is you're doing is going to kill you, and I'm pretty sure it is, you better tell her before it happens
[16:01] <Cora> I must shop for dinner. Excuse me.
[16:01] <Simon Kerrick> Of course, my dear.
[16:01] *** Cora has left #suburbansenshi2
[16:01] * Simon Kerrick smiles and waves her away.
[16:01] <Simon Kerrick> Now, what were you saying?